Seriously, what does it feel like to meet a decent-looking (i.e. not fat or ugly) girl and have her actually want you and want to have sex with you? Does it feel like fireworks, a warm massage or winning the lottery, or do you guys get it so often you just take it for granted? Genuinely wondering here. Feel free to callously mock the shitty ugly worthless life I'm stuck in, if you like.

I made a point to myself and I advise ALL others to ignore anything you post on the forums.. Though I just slipped up because I didn't know this was you at first.

Just some food for thought bro; Your hurting a lot of guys on this forum with the things you are posting. Just reading through your post sends some of your beliefs into our subconscious. Which is slightly ruining the guys with not much knowledge on women's short term success.

We would honestly all appreciate it if you would just go away.. I'm not trying to me mean or a dick but you obviously aren't planning on making any change. Your way of thinking has remained the same since you've been on this website.. No growth has been shown. So either your just mentally challenged or incapable of retaining information; which is cool, but don't damage other members on the forum with you ignorance.

Sorry dan, There is a lot of information out there for you to read all over the internet. There is TONS AND TONS of books and post by guys that actually sleep with women. Google it. I don't know if your a troll, but if you aren't, could you do us and the guys who want to learn a favor and go some place else?

No offense bro, its all in love.

And I'd advise ALL USERS ON THIS SITE to IGNORE everything written by the DAN THEDAN as well. Don't even open it if you see his name, because just by reading it you're not helping your thoughts on women.

Farewell Sir.

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It seems like you have some self-loathing issues here, my advice is to take some time to sit and think about your life and any issues that you may have and find ways to fix, work-around or improve things you are not happy with.

It doesn't do to sit around feeling sorry for ones self; if you do not take the initiative then any problems will never get fixed and you will be forever stuck in a rut, never feeling better, I have been there. Do not allow yourself to be eaten away by 'problems'.

I apologize for my harshness, but fuck you.

What sort of people did you think the pickup arts would attract? Who do you think it's for?

danthedan, your name first came to my attention when someone in the chatroom mentioned you and said something like "he should be banned already."

I went through some of your posts. They are a disgusting pile of wbAFC garbage that reeks of desperation, stubbornness, victim mentality, and everything that's the opposite of what PUA teaches. It's painful to read your shit. You make me sick.



...I used to be worse. And you make me sick because you remind me so much of who I used to be. You said in a previous post that you were nearly suicidal over some Jane girl. Well I've actually attempted suicide before because of how desperate I used to be with girls... and it wasn't even just once.

After nearly 8 years in the PUA community, I'm an instructor for one of the best PUA companies in the world, a senior moderator on one of the best PUA forums on the net (this one), and I've had more pleasure and love than anyone my age should have. I got what I wanted and more.

If you seek my help, I will personally see to it that you get your ass on the right track. I used to be just as desperate and negative as you, maybe even more, and I used my desperation to propel myself forward after taking a hopeful bite of the forbidden PUA fruit. Can you do the same, or will you let your desperation and sense of worthlessness eat you away from the inside?


By the way, the thing you should take from Fuze's post is that what you write is brimming with evidence of you possessing the WRONG mentalities.

Oh, and change therapists. You need a male one, trust me.

And, to address the topic of this thread: It feels different for those who are in different places in life.

For YOU, where you are in life right now, if you find yourself in a situation where a hot woman expressed a desire for you sexually or romantically, you would feel very uncomfortable. It's completely outside of your comfort zone and you might get a rush of strong anxiety. In fact, your subconscious is already completely aware of this, so it tries very hard to sabotage your romantic/sexual prospects even if you aren't consciously aware of it.

For someone like me, however, I actually know that I deserve the attention of beautiful women, so it just feels good.

Is lacy a chick?

what brings a woman to a board like this?

Anyway, for a chick to want me means all the time I spent looking in the mirror saying "Damn your hot" was actually true...

No, Im gonna be controversial and say women never want us for sex only, they are simply not like us. They have other reasons for wanting to have sex, but not the sex itself.

1. to prove they can
2. to piss off another woman
3. to piss off another man
4. to have a story to tell
5, to get pregnant and trap a guy into marrying her
6. to get pregnant and get the guy to pay for child support
7. she thinks you will be something different in her life

the list goes on.

Even us guys dont want women for just sex, we want them for some other reason like:

1. they will be willing to do it
2. we will get a confidence and ego boast
3. another notch
4. bragging rights ( how many guys fuck a woman and never tell anybody about it? )

the sex only lasts 15 20 minutes, or in my case 30 seconds, so I dont think women want anybody for just sex, even married women who cheat on their husbands have sex to get that romance back.

a good friend once said "men use intimacy to get sex, women use sex to get intimacy. Then I fucked her LOLLLLL

For the record, 40's post above is completely off the mark. You'd be a lot better off disregarding it. I was tempted to just delete that post but my whole freedom-of-speech value thing wouldn't let me.

Goddammit 40 I don't want to have to deal with BOTH you and danthedan in the same thread. I'll deal with you later. Go get your attention elsewhere for now.

Oh whatever. DEAL with me then.

I get it moderators know everything, anybody who is NOT a moderator has to be dealt with.

and didnt Dan start the thread? isnt he entitiled to express himself without being corrected by you?

I am still suicidal over her, I just don't think I've had enough practice to try and escalate with her yet. I get on well with her, and I somehow conquer my shyness when I'm with her, I can tease her and make her laugh - it's almost as if I perform well under intense pressure. I really want to try for her pretty soon, so I'd be grateful for your advice if you would give it to me, rather than insult & bully me like everyone used to at school.

When I write on here, I just write completely honestly, that's all. There's no consequences on here, so it's one of my very few outlets. I know I'm a pathetic useless loser with girls, because I never get anywhere with them. I'm not a troll and I'm not lying, I genuinely feel completely worthless beacuse the only thing I want/need is a pretty girl, and I can't get them. I've failed (and keep failing) at the only reason us male humans are even on this planet (procreation), so I know I must be somehow retarded/cursed. So rather than pretend I'm cool, at least I'm honest about myself. I pre-empt comments like "OMG you're so pathetic and useless with girls" by admitting it myself. Surely the first step to improving is admitting you have a problem?

I can actually get OK sometimes, when I get on a roll, if I'm with a lot of friends (I don't have many though) and feel confident. Then I feel good and feel like I could at least talk to women. But most of the time I just feel completely useless and like my life is just a sadistic experiment to see how long it takes to drive someone insane by giving them an insanely high sex drive, a desperate need for romantic love, and yet ironically a below-average face and a seemingly complete inability to get girls to actually want me. (That's why I made this particular thread, I just wondered what it's like, like someone wondering what strawberries taste like when they've never had one). This is how I geuninely feel and it feels like utter shit, my mind is filled with suicidal thoughts most of the time and I can't stand it. I'm just expressing myself to try and get help to try and chnage - how does that make me a troll/dickhead?!

And how did you know my therapist was female?

Surprisingly the forum is filled with ALOT less trolls and dickheads then a typical internet forum.

BTW Dan-The more harsh and judgemental you are on yourself with your words and thoughts, the deeper it sinks into your subconcious. You need to grab those negative thoughts by the balls when they come. You can't stop them, but you can slowly catch them occuring and countering them with positive thought. I can suggest some great books to help you out with self image. I have done extensive study throughout my years.

Yeah, why would you waste your time making people angry on here when you can be learning to pickup

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Sorry about that, I just figured some shock value would get your attention
Oh yeah, I can definitely tell. That's why I gave the "fuck you" to Fuze lol
You mentioned having a therapist in some other post you wrote somewhere. You also referred to your therapist as "she" or "her." But, yeah, a male therapist will serve you a lot better for these sorts of things.


You say you want to try for Jane soon, but let me ask you to be patient... a lot more patient. What I have in mind for you is REAL long term change. What do you think about that? Instead of aiming for just one shot at love, how about changing yourself into the man that you've always wanted to be so that romantic opportunities come a HELL of a lot easier?

EDIT: Holy shit this is my 5000th post!!! Time to post something epic in this edit...

How exactly? I thought a female therapist might give me an insight into girls' minds.
I'd love to change myself. My greatest wish is to be regarded by Jane as a sex god, and to be desperately wanted by her, so I can get with her and marry her. I know I need practice first, but I need her so badly now. I often cry my eyes out because I just want to be cuddling her, but then when I see her I somehow manage to act like she's not my goddess. I'm not sure how, but maybe it's the PUA in me desperately trying to get out.

I almost feel schizophrenic sometimes, with the bad thoughts that keep coming. For example, just walking past a girl and having her ignore me rather than ogle me, convinces me that I'm not good enough for her to ogle, therefore I'm useless scum, therefore I'm not good enough for Jane (who is automatically superior to every other girl on the planet), and it goes on like this until I'm tearful and wanting to cut myself again. So of course I want to change, but all I see is all this immense amount of PUA knowledge & skills that I feel I need to become an expert in before I can get any girl at all! I can barely even get on with other guys, let alone 'open' a group of HB7s, neg them and make out with one of them. So PUA stuff is extremely intimidating for me, and yet it's the only way! :O

I regard with extreme awe anyone who can get lucky enough to kiss a pretty girl, just like a poor starving Ethiopian child would be amazed at the average Westerner being able to eat a nice juicy pizza. I'm very thankful to be able to eat, so you PUAs should realise how lucky you are that girls want you - just take a step back for a moment and imagine those very same girls ignoring/mocking/bullying you. It seems like distant fantasy for me to be in the situation you guys can find yourself in at the click of your fingers, so I can't understand why you just take it for granted. :S

Your therapist is not there to teach you shit. Your therapist's job is to 1. UNDERSTAND YOU and then 2. diagnose you and shit like that... I think. Your problems are somewhat unique to that of men, and a female therapist would be far less likely to understand your situation as opposed to a male therapist.

You didn't get a therapist so you can pay someone a ridiculous amount of money to learn about girls. That's what THIS community is for. Therapists can't do shit in this field. Oh, and by the way, don't try to learn about pickup from women. That's kinda one of our rules of thumb. Would you ask a fish for tips on how to catch it?
I understand how intimidating this mountain of knowledge can be, especially when it's all a whole new world to you. Don't try to soak it all in at once. Oh, god, DO NOT try to soak it all in at once. I'll walk you through the appropriate steps, but you gotta be cooperative and help me help you by keeping an open mind about things.

First of all, I hope that you possess the maturity to be open minded to the possibility that you may meet dozens of other women that can make you happy throughout this journey of pickup. If you meet other women, I want you to be able to let go of Jane. At least be open to this possibility.

Then, I want you to do The Newbie Mission and start a Journal in the Field Reports board.

Lastly, I want to clear something up... Do you understand why your analogy is very very flawed?

An Ethiopian child has practically no resources and a very very slim chance of improving his situation. You, on the other hand, have all the tools and resources to completely transform your life right at your fingertips. Those of us who have gotten success through pickup aren't fucking "lucky." I, for one, worked my ass off to get from a suicidal whiny cunt of an AFC to where I am today. As I said before, it's been like 8 fucking years. Don't insult my hard work by writing it off as luck, and don't discredit your own damn potential with lame excuses.

An Ethiopian child can work hard all he wants, but his life probably won't change all that dramatically. You, on the other hand, can turn your life 180 degrees as long as you put the time and effort into it. If you can't understand this concept and take it to heart, there is absolutely no hope for you and I'm wasting my time. So, let me know what you think so I can decide whether or not it's worth my time to keep helping you.

HOW DOES IT FEEL? it feels like fireworks, its that feeling u get when you ace a hard test, that feeling when u make a touchdown in football, that feeling when you got 33-0 in halo online, that feeling when the girl of your dreams actually gives you some ioi's, that feeling of pure satisfaction. it gives you pure satisfaction. I didnt get this feeling when i hooked up with a 9.5 at my mom's wedding this summer, perhaps because i was drunk. I did get it when the girl i had a crush on for 2 years in high school started flirting with me over facebook, i got the feeling when we were joking about fucking in the ocean a couple of days ago. I dont get this feeling from any girl, it has to be from that girl you desire with all your heart. I cant imagine what it'll feel like when i actually lay this girl... Even if she really doesnt want me and is just being a complete flirt/bop, i dont care, im so satisfyed from successfully charming her already that i dont care either way if i ever kiss her because i honestly know without a doubt that if i tried to kiss her, she would reciprocate, even though she's a lesbian lol. My game came out that good when i was talking to this chick, she's the only girl where everything i've said came across exactly how i wanted it to

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