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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:50 pm 
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Okay so I only started looking at this forum a week ago but have spent a LOT of time on here - as there is a lot of specifics and a lot of threads to read through I just tried to assimilate what I read into a 'progression' of steps rather than worrying about every little stage.

I knew I could already talk to HB and make them laugh and be a little cocky so I don't really need routines as such, I just have trouble getting them into bed so what I took from PUA was an awareness of 'what to do next', on here what I learned I was missing was KINO and escalation techniques, along with things like 'instant date' and 'push-pull'. Never even crossed my mind before this week.

I had also never gone out purely with the intention to pick up so I went into town today - there were NO HB about, I mean none, there was barely anyone about to be honest. I was on my way back to the car after about 40 mins when I bumped into a HB7 I know. It must be said at this point that I have slept with her before a few times so not exactly 'virgin territory' (mainly after taking her out and getting drunk - me paying!) but it must also be said that she is a strange cookie and since the last time we saw each other (a couple of months) as an AFC I was texting her and calling her but got no no response apart from some very delayed banal text messages.

Anyway, we started talking and I got her into Starbucks very quickly - I would not normally have done this - we 'caught up' but after the first couple of minutes the conversation went stale and she started looking about, I then tried to recall what to do next - escalate / KINO!. Before now I would have been frustrated that she wasn't concentrating on me and made a comment about it, probably drunk up and left in a bit of a huff..... BUT NOW..... I saw she had a necklace on with a funny decoration so asked to see it - looked into her eyes, got her touch it too and left my hand in hers as it dropped to the table. She was now concentrating on ME again! Made a bit of fun out of her and when I did I would touch her knee and shake it jokingly, then I left my hand there after an appropriate comment.....

.... My hand is still on her knee... For some reason we started to talk about poetry and I said I would write one for her (a bit lame I know but it was only joking about, and the poem wasn't going to be ABOUT her, just about a subject of her choice - which was 'Mermaids' if anybody is interested), I then said she would have to write one for me - she said she wouldn't do this - so I took my hand immediately off her knee and sat back. This made her react really funny and she actually pushed her leg towards me. Man I was loving this - for the first time I was aware of what was happening here, thanks to PUA.

Anyway, this post is really long already and I only wanted to illustrate how my (very little) knowledge of PUA helped me immensely here, rather than getting pissed and walking out I now had her wanting my hand back on her leg!

When I sensed Starbucks began to get boring, we went for a walk in town, when that became boring we got some pizza, all the time I was trying KINO/escalate, arms round her when crossing the road, pulling her hood up, etc. I really do have to say that this stuff is something I would not normally do or at least not to the level I was doing it.

We went back to mine and spent a few happy hours in bed, what a result.

Now I know that I only know the very basics and it was a relatively 'easy' target, and I am fairly confident in talking to women anyway but I just wanted to say that without my reading the steps that I should be doing and how to handle things, not let things get boring, KINO, escalation, and push-pull I would more than likely lost this HB7 and spent my afternoon playing XBOX.

So thanks to the writers of all the posts I have read last week - too many to mention! And I look forward to really learning this stuff and being able to do it to women I have just met.

Peace.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:22 pm 
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Okay so I only started looking at this forum a week ago but have spent a LOT of time on here - as there is a lot of specifics and a lot of threads to read through I just tried to assimilate what I read into a 'progression' of steps rather than worrying about every little stage.

I knew I could already talk to HB and make them laugh and be a little cocky so I don't really need routines as such, I just have trouble getting them into bed so what I took from PUA was an awareness of 'what to do next', on here what I learned I was missing was KINO and escalation techniques, along with things like 'instant date' and 'push-pull'. Never even crossed my mind before this week.

I had also never gone out purely with the intention to pick up so I went into town today - there were NO HB about, I mean none, there was barely anyone about to be honest. I was on my way back to the car after about 40 mins when I bumped into a HB7 I know. It must be said at this point that I have slept with her before a few times so not exactly 'virgin territory' (mainly after taking her out and getting drunk - me paying!) but it must also be said that she is a strange cookie and since the last time we saw each other (a couple of months) as an AFC I was texting her and calling her but got no no response apart from some very delayed banal text messages.

Anyway, we started talking and I got her into Starbucks very quickly - I would not normally have done this - we 'caught up' but after the first couple of minutes the conversation went stale and she started looking about, I then tried to recall what to do next - escalate / KINO!. Before now I would have been frustrated that she wasn't concentrating on me and made a comment about it, probably drunk up and left in a bit of a huff..... BUT NOW..... I saw she had a necklace on with a funny decoration so asked to see it - looked into her eyes, got her touch it too and left my hand in hers as it dropped to the table. She was now concentrating on ME again! Made a bit of fun out of her and when I did I would touch her knee and shake it jokingly, then I left my hand there after an appropriate comment.....

.... My hand is still on her knee... For some reason we started to talk about poetry and I said I would write one for her (a bit lame I know but it was only joking about, and the poem wasn't going to be ABOUT her, just about a subject of her choice - which was 'Mermaids' if anybody is interested), I then said she would have to write one for me - she said she wouldn't do this - so I took my hand immediately off her knee and sat back. This made her react really funny and she actually pushed her leg towards me. Man I was loving this - for the first time I was aware of what was happening here, thanks to PUA.

Anyway, this post is really long already and I only wanted to illustrate how my (very little) knowledge of PUA helped me immensely here, rather than getting pissed and walking out I now had her wanting my hand back on her leg!

When I sensed Starbucks began to get boring, we went for a walk in town, when that became boring we got some pizza, all the time I was trying KINO/escalate, arms round her when crossing the road, pulling her hood up, etc. I really do have to say that this stuff is something I would not normally do or at least not to the level I was doing it.

We went back to mine and spent a few happy hours in bed, what a result.

Now I know that I only know the very basics and it was a relatively 'easy' target, and I am fairly confident in talking to women anyway but I just wanted to say that without my reading the steps that I should be doing and how to handle things, not let things get boring, KINO, escalation, and push-pull I would more than likely lost this HB7 and spent my afternoon playing XBOX.

So thanks to the writers of all the posts I have read last week - too many to mention! And I look forward to really learning this stuff and being able to do it to women I have just met.

Peace.
Nice one. Arming guys with the knowledge to succeed is what PUA is all about. I'm glad that you didn't have to spend your evening on XBOX. Gaming is so stupid.

Later.

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it's nice to read posts like this. gets me motivated.

I didn't really have much happen yet, but I feel like the same thing happening. just by touching girls, they seem to be easier to touch you back and everything. Next saturday will be my first day of real sarging tho. in a club with lots of women. I'll deffo post something on the forums too.


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Dude, that's cool. Know that the 'quick-fixes' are going to stop working for you very soon. PUA knowledge is both a blessing and a curse.

The trick now is to make the real situation your reference point, not use the PUA methods as the reference point for your real situation.

The system works like this. On this day you were thinking "whats the next PUA trick thats applicable here?"
Unfortunately that thought pattern is limiting. It keeps you focused on theory, which distracts from reality. In more complicated situations, you won't be able to pull out these sorts of victories.
The benefit is that victories, and even the losses, add to your "real" memory bank. These recollections of reality are infinitely more useful than PUA reading material. Soon you'll be able to embody "This girl is feeling ___. What has worked in the past when girls were feeling ____?"
The real images and sensations associated with that question will be far more helpful than any reading in the long run.

Great report, put this one in the win column.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:47 am 
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Thanks for the feedback and advice Slip n Slide..!

What do you mean about a blessing and a curse? Do you mean that you keep thinking about it instead of getting on with it?

I understand what you mean about reference point, try link what is happening now back to what happened to me before in real life and not back to a PUA descriptor. If something is happening that I can't link back to in real life then I'm stumped if I don't have a PUA descriptor for it - which will probably happen pretty soon ha ha.

Also, by 'complicated situations' I assume you mean women I don't already know?

Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:21 am 
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What do you mean about a blessing and a curse? Do you mean that you keep thinking about it instead of getting on with it?

Also, by 'complicated situations' I assume you mean women I don't already know?
Blessing and a curse in the sense that beginners will often find that they did better before they knew anything about game. The simple fact that they wanted a girl could sometimes propell them to make the right moves. As you gain knowledge, you can observe the behaviors as they occur. Which means you can't flow and function in them as easily. You'll someday find yourself standing next to some really alpha guy, he'll be laughing and joking, you'll see everything he's doing right, but you can't do anything. It's a helpless feeling. But no worries, it'll pass, and it becomes less common than the good feelings.

Complicated. So yes, that, and also anything else that could come up. Guys being around, weird random things popping up and interrupting you, you never know.


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Thanks again for the advice Slip n Slide.

What you say hits a chord as when used to play golf I would have some swing coaching and after this, on the course, I would just keep thinking about what the coach said to do, and worrying if I was doing it or not - rather than just naturally doing it - actually making me hit the ball worse! Of course repetition would then make the new actions second nature and I would improve.

So what would you suggest the best course of action is after I have been in a situation that I just end up flaking out of for whatever reason? Either on the day or afterwards when thinking about it? Thanks for your time....


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So what would you suggest the best course of action is after I have been in a situation that I just end up flaking out of for whatever reason? Either on the day or afterwards when thinking about it?
I'm not sure I understand the question. If you mean how do you coach your broken social swing? You go back over the situation, and find the places where you would have changed your action, and how you would have done it. It helps to write it down. And then you forget about it.


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Okay, go back over the situation, write it down. Don't over analyse, forget about it.

Makes sense. Thanks.


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