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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:06 pm 
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last Sunday I banged this girl at my buddies wedding. We exchanged numbers and here's the aftermath up to this point.

Text logs...

Monday (the day after we banged)
[her] - hey, how are you
[me] - Good...blah, blah
[her] - Oh that's cool...blah, blah
[me] - When are we hanging out?
[her] - When you invite me!
[me] - How about today. If not, let's go out Friday
[her] - Haha, I don't think so. I get off of work around 9 on Fri. What are we doing Friday?
[me] - We can go out for a drink or go eat
[her] - Let's go to (bar name).
[me] - Sounds good

Tuesday around midnight
[her] - What are you doing on Sat?

Wednesday morning
[me] - Sorry, I had class, I passed out early. Not sure about Sat...what's up?

Thursday (she didn't reply to my text from Wed)
[me] - So what's up on Sat?
[her] - Do u want to go to a concert?
[me] - Who's playing? Can i let you know Fri?
[her] - [band name] is playing, I'll send u the name of the artist (around 3pm)

Friday
[me] - What are u up to? (6pm ish)
[her] - Just got off work. Super sick (around 9pm)
[me] - So what are you saying [her name], what you getting? lol
[me] - i meant to say, what r u getting at? lol (20 mins later)

Saturday
[me] - How you feeling?
[her] - Like crap
[me] - That sucks...feel better (1.5 hrs later)
[her] - Thanks! (3 hrs later)

Here's what's happened since...

I waited things out and sure enough she sends me the following text on Thursday (5 days since we last spoke).

[her] - I had a dream that you showed up at my house and you were throwing up everywhere, weird lol

I decided to call her 8 hours later to try and setup a date. Sure enough, I got her voice mail and left the following message ...

"Hey what's up [her name], call me back..you know who it is"

I still haven't heard from her. Any thoughts on wtf is happening here? I assume her text from Thursday was her attempt at a restart text. I figured that was my que to just call her. Did I do something wrong here? I'm thinking about texting her later tonight if she doesn't respond with something along the lines of...

"I'm glad you're having such pleasant dreams about me. lol Anyways, I'm going out for drinks on Sat, come by my place around [time]...sound good?"

Any thoughts on this?


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I'm actually in sort of a similar situation man, not sure if my texting has fucked me over. Anyway, and keep in mind I am a COMPLETE beginner with this kind of shit, it seems to me like you're being very passive in this situation. You might be texting her to arrange a date, but what's the point if she's the one saying where you guys should go? For example, when she asked, "what are we doing friday", you should have been more assertive and either picked drinks, or going out to eat, and said just that.

I believe that she thinks you're more of a passive person, and you need to paint in her mind that you're gonna be the one calling the shots. Another example of this would be here:

her: do u wanna go to a concert?
me: who's playing? can i let you know fri?

There's no need to ask for her permission to talk to her on Friday, after all, you're the dude (you should be the aggressor)!

The good news is that she sent you a text on Thursday, meaning she still has some sort of interest. And I'd imagine she's screening to see if you're even worth her time to dress up, look nice, etc. hence why you guys are still in contact.

Now here's where I'm not sure, and hopefully more experienced people can chime in on this. What if you said something along the lines of, "alright, enough mind games woman! We're both civilized adults, so let's act our age. Drinks at (insert bar name) on (give date and time). Be there, or be a weirdly shaped figure."

By saying that, you're asserting dominance and showing her that you're not going to put up with her shit. You've given her a specific time to be there, and she should respect that because you're wearing the pants in this relationship! Plus, it shows some humor (not the best, but by adding it in, it doesn't make you seem pissed off or emotionally acting). You're simply calling her out on her shit, and putting her in place.

I hope something out of that huge essay I just wrote helps you out man. I'm still learning too, but hopefully this works out for you. Good luck, and keep us posted!


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Thanks thehuntforidawave .

I'm not sure going the route of calling her out on her "mind games" would be the right move here. I think the "playing games" bs is just give and take at this point, and I have to go with the flow.

I'm just wondering if texting her later tonight and asking her out via text is the right move at this point -- since doing it via calling didn't seem to workout.


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Thanks thehuntforidawave .

I'm not sure going the route of calling her out on her "mind games" would be the right move here. I think the "playing games" bs is just give and take at this point, and I have to go with the flow.

I'm just wondering if texting her later tonight and asking her out via text is the right move at this point -- since doing it via calling didn't seem to workout.
Ask her out. If you moved any slower you'd be moving backward.


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Ask her out. If you moved any slower you'd be moving backward.
Hahaha, yeah, I guess.

My point is that I called her last night to ask her out, but got her voice mail; she never called or texted back. I'm asking if I should contact her tonight (via text) and just ask her out that way or should I wait for her response.

If so, does this text work... "I'm glad you're having such pleasant dreams about me. lol Anyways, I'm going out for drinks on Sat, come by my place [time]...sound good?"


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Ask her out. If you moved any slower you'd be moving backward.
Hahaha, yeah, I guess.

My point is that I called her last night to ask her out, but got her voice mail; she never called or texted back. I'm asking if I should contact her tonight (via text) and just ask her out that way or should I wait for her response.

If so, does this text work... "I'm glad you're having such pleasant dreams about me. lol Anyways, I'm going out for drinks on Sat, come by my place [time]...sound good?"
Sure, go ahead and text her maybe she didn't retrieve her voice mail, I know I don't sometimes for days on end (who fucking voice mails anymore?!?). Ask her out, be short, don't send her a paragraph where you warm to finally asking her out, show some confidence even if you aren't feeling confident right now, feign it; say to yourself "how would the confident dude text her right now?".

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Ask her out. If you moved any slower you'd be moving backward.
Hahaha, yeah, I guess.

My point is that I called her last night to ask her out, but got her voice mail; she never called or texted back. I'm asking if I should contact her tonight (via text) and just ask her out that way or should I wait for her response.

If so, does this text work... "I'm glad you're having such pleasant dreams about me. lol Anyways, I'm going out for drinks on Sat, come by my place [time]...sound good?"
You don't have to refer back to her text, but yeah, send that. papichulo is right. It's almost like girls are constantly walking away from you. You can walk with them, but if you stop walking you gotta run to catch up.

So run! Make a move! Be direct! Get a yes or a no before we're all old!


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Thanks guys, I guess I need a good kick in the balls sometimes.

I just sent the following text..."I'm going out for drinks on Sat, come by my place tomorrow at 10"


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Well, i still haven't heard anything back from her. This is starting to get really fucking frustrating. Should I just send her another text later today asking her if she's coming or simply with a question mark, or does this just seem like a lost cause. I can only really hangout w/her today, otherwise I'll have to wait until next Sat... and I don't really want to go through with another week of this back and forth texting bs. Any advice would be appriceated


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Well, i still haven't heard anything back from her. This is starting to get really fucking frustrating. Should I just send her another text later today asking her if she's coming or simply with a question mark, or does this just seem like a lost cause. I can only really hangout w/her today, otherwise I'll have to wait until next Sat... and I don't really want to go through with another week of this back and forth texting bs. Any advice would be appriceated
Leave things be for now.


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Yep I'm a bit of a noob at the text game but I have had a similar situation to you. My advice would be to try and re-engage the conversation with her so you can get answer asap. Use an opener, I would do something like this.

You:Can I get your advice on something?
(she should respond very quickly to this, overcome with curiosity)
HB: Yeah what is it?
You:(think of something cocky funny to say, if she buys it neg her for taking ages to reply)

If you leave it for next week there is a far greater chance she will flake you.

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Yep I'm a bit of a noob at the text game but I have had a similar situation to you. My advice would be to try and re-engage the conversation with her so you can get answer asap. Use an opener, I would do something like this.

You:Can I get your advice on something?
(she should respond very quickly to this, overcome with curiosity)
HB: Yeah what is it?
You:(think of something cocky funny to say, if she buys it neg her for taking ages to reply)

If you leave it for next week there is a far greater chance she will flake you.
Don't do this. She isn't interested.

I thought this when I first read the text you sent, but it wasn't worth saying at the time. It was too assumptive. From her perspective, you didn't consider the possibility that she had plans already, or wouldn't want to go. It was the command of "come by my place" that made it too harsh. A question mark at the end would have softened it enough. Something to keep in mind for next time.


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I STRONGLY suggest you stop texting her for now otherwise you'll come off as a creepo. Unfortunately a lot of young cats are reading this PUA material and persisting when a girl isn't reciprocating - women don't like this, it's very creepy behavior and looks extremely desperate. Please do not do what Eyrie suggested, you'll only feel embarrassed and there's nothing to be gained of it. Leave it alone for now, revisit the possibility of texting her in a week or 2 if you haven't heard anything.


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Yep I'm a bit of a noob at the text game but I have had a similar situation to you. My advice would be to try and re-engage the conversation with her so you can get answer asap. Use an opener, I would do something like this.

You:Can I get your advice on something?
(she should respond very quickly to this, overcome with curiosity)
HB: Yeah what is it?
You:(think of something cocky funny to say, if she buys it neg her for taking ages to reply)

If you leave it for next week there is a far greater chance she will flake you.
Don't do this. She isn't interested.

I thought this when I first read the text you sent, but it wasn't worth saying at the time. It was too assumptive. From her perspective, you didn't consider the possibility that she had plans already, or wouldn't want to go. It was the command of "come by my place" that made it too harsh. A question mark at the end would have softened it enough. Something to keep in mind for next time.
Some guys no matter how disinterested a woman is being wont stop until 1) the girl tells them to "FUCK OFF", and/or 2) she blocks his number). PUA techniques and theories are creating creepo obsessive guys. This is NOT a turn on.


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That was a gateway to build some rapport through text messaging... Its too "weird" for her at the point to talk on the phone..

And don't send that text, it will NOT work, you build no rapport, its too long and your asking her to make an instant decision.

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