Last night went out xmas eve an my friend goes up to a hb who we have both seen before an says you alright you seem to have put on a bit of wieght since the last time i saw you.

She comes to me later an says my self esteem has been nocked by your mate an then i say yeah you have put a bit of wieght on, She hasnt theres nothin to her so we talk for a bit. iv never actually took this approach to a girl i was mere trying it out

Later on she comes an she was crying her eyes out before over what me an my mate said to her i felt so fucking guilty an still do i bet she wont even touch her xmas dinner today is making a hb10 cry realy worth a fuck of a hb10 not a chance. But it does work my friend knows game but i hardly ever watch him we just go our seperate ways in clubs an go meet new girls.

Its definatley not my approach to it but it sure as hell seems alot easier

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I guess it depends on what kind of person you are. I'm sure as hell I want to get girls through positive energy, making her cry and then going back to you qualifying herself and later on crying? I would regret what I said. I just personally hate it when a girl cries because of me.
All in all I do think you'd be able to sleep with her and if you choose to, then that's your psychological fight.

Were you guys trying to "neg" because that's not a neg at all, that's plain rude

Well i never neg me i tried it an it always came of wrong but my friend always says stuff like this to girls an it seems to work for him with hb10s.

My type of game is more like just makin them laugh high kino good posture high social circle an direct ill tell a girl at nightime i want to fuck her within 1 minute i hate indirect an all this acting unintrested like you dont want them till the last minute.
Thats where me an my friend differ he likes indirect i like direct.
I think my friend may actually be trying to neg hes read a little but he never reads up on game anymore he read about a months worth an his laptop broke but after 1 month he went from hardly any girls to hb 8,9s in a month.

Im more of a daytime guy aswell he doesnt do it

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You seem to not understand negs, or what indirect is, if it takes you forever to show her that you like her, that is not being indirect that is being a pussy, and direct has nothing to do with telling a girl you want to fuck her in under a minute, it is about genuinely expressing yourself as a man with no censorship,

indirect = show interest after the girl and build attraction to get her to show interest (3 iois, and you hit on her)

direct = show interest when you genuinely have interest, be that from the start or as soon as you feel you want to, it is actually expressing yourself without ego protection or seeking someone approval free from neediness

Lol, i find this a very amusing story.

You say your friend knows game? Is the game he knows called Call of Duty? Because he sure as hell shot her down .

In pickup, the interaction is the most important thing. it stands and it falls with that. What you guys did was aborting any kind of interaction that could have been.

i dont believe that this kind approach works. It comes down on hiding your own insecurities behind some tough talk you believe is called negging. Good self esteem girls see right through that. Mean self esteem girls see that as an invitation to cruelly toy with you, and right they are.

What you should have done is approach her, talk to her. If she is bitchy because she thinks of herself that she is beautiful, then you bring out some big guns, but still with a smile on the face. And not plain insults, as it would be a childish reaction. Interact, be interested.

Any woman that would come back and be willing to fuck with this... "methodology" is not worth it. Only low self esteemers take that bait, and they cant fuck for shit.

cheers

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personally i do not understand negs nor do i understand indirect but direct i understand saying the first thing on your mind without hesitation every girl i meet in night time i say hey dont take this the wrong way or out but i thought you looked stunning an id love to get to no you.

I do not game i no hardly any routines when i tried routines i failed big time came off as a weirdo.
People have been getting laid for years without any of this knowledge All pua changed me was my body language which use to be crap near every girl i opened these past 2 nights complimented me on my confidence. straight away
And the main one i use to be a nice guy an a pushover.

Girls say to me im like there gay best friend who aint gay, If they ever need a piss outside at night time they always take me with them. An they know exactly im a male slag an im open about it.

The girl last night i saw it worked when my friend said it to her so i thought id try it aswell to see how it played out i didnt think she would cry or out.

Game/life to me is more about your beliefs an thats it you belive you will get the girl most of the time you will Infact life is all about beliefs you want to be alpha belive you are its amazing how they dont teach about beliefs in school the world would be a better place.

Any tips on being better direct im all ears aslong as i never have to do a bloody routine lol cheers for the advice anywat guys

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what you say now makes a bit more sense.

i do wonder: how did you see that it worked with your friend? I can hardly believe that she was jumped him in some horny euphory. I am serious though, how could you tell? what did she do?

I admire your view on beliefs, but i find it awkward that PU only changed your bodylanguage, and not some of your beliefs.

To me, the only belief i have in game is the belief in what i can do and what i can still learn. To me, gaming and seduction is an art, an art in communicating, manipulating, the ability to bend a part of your world the way you like it.

To me, seduction is what makes me a better man, what makes me better then most other men.

As for your direct game: beliefs are important in direct game. Direct game to me is more about what you stand for and go for what you want. Having the balls to go for it in a straight line. So be honest about your beliefs and act accordingly, otherwise you are a fraud.

so perhaps as a tip (but you might already know it): genuine honesty is your greatest weapon, honest towards yourself and honest towards the other people. Perhaps this is shitty advice, so i ll try to explain with an example:

I was looking for a LTR back then, a good one, as i recently broke out of a very bad one. Dishonesty was key in that relation, perhaps that is why i am so fixed on honesty.
So would walk up to an attractive woman. I didnt care what she was doing, i just stopped any conversation or activity. I said: yeah excuse me. You (addressing her by looking her dead in the eye), i think you are very hot/sexy/attractive/whatever it was that i thought of her at that moment. I want to get to know you better. Lets go for a drink, either now if you got hte time or for example thursday.


I had played all my cards there in about 30 seconds. I had been honest in what i thought and what i wanted. It was her time now. If she liked me already in that first moment, she would say yes . If she didnt like me or already has a boyfriend, she would say no. if she said maybe or some lame excuus, something shit test alike, i would simply say: this is my number. call me if you feel like it. I would just turn my back and walk away.

I hope it explains a bit more. If you got more questions, shoot! just dont quickscope any HB10's anymore .

cheers

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ah you actually bring up a good point there yes it has not just changed my body language but my beliefs to like i now understand girls love sex an iv linked pleasure to learning, in school i was the most laidback person youd ever meet alot of people say im the most laidback person they have ever met which is why you can probally tell by my gramma school was just not for me hated it prefere working at tesco way more fun lol.

I was surprised aswell when the girl came up to me an told me what he said i thought to myself i take risks going out in a mankini infront of 2000 people on a night out an i wouldnt of dreamed of saying something like that.
She was in pure shock an i said yeah i can see what he means you could do with losing a few pounds. i had been on a 15 hour binge xmas an that so my style was a bit differnt than usual maybe she was just an extremley low self esteem girl i took her straight into qualification although ill admit i dont no what phase or whatever that is name 3 things other than your looks which she gave she was dancing with me in the night. but i met another hb before hand who in all my time going out is one of the funniest girls iv ever met so i stuck with her even though shes got a bf she was fun to be around. just an instant connection.

The girl with my friend was all over him dancin with him engaging him in conversation throwin iois to him Think shes been use to guys treating her like a goddess all her life.

Yes your direct game does give me a few new ideas i like the number hand it to them then leave an its in there hands i do practically the same apart from when there at maybe i like to stay in the conversation never thought about giving my number then leaving i like it though do you have wrote down or somethin or do you just tell them to put it in there phone then leave.

I still have confidence problems with direct game espically in the day it takes me about 5 direct approaches until eye contact is good an the interactions go good the first one is hard but i can do it but these past 2 weeks im a new man an girls treat me so differntley on nights out now. Bitch shields just seem to have dissapered im liking it an i will never say that to a girl again felt like the most horriblist guy in the world. i put millions on it shes on a diet asap an she doesnt even need one. i said sorry to her an told her i was just playing with her tried boostin her back up but think the damage has been done ):

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About the numbers, they just put it in their cell phones after asking my name. Now that i think of it, i never actually asked their names, until we met up. I didnt do it on purpose though, just didnt came up.

Some proposed me to give their number back. But i never accepted. I always replied something like : i already said what i wanna say so I am not going to use your number. I ll get it when you call me or text me.

Some friends of girls i addressed said to me: "dont be so direct with women, you need to be gentle." this is bullcrap. I am actually surprised how many girls still call me, even though i have a gf now, already over a year. Direct game leaves an impression.

Your confidence will grow, rest assured.

I never had performance issues with direct game. Everything was quite ok. After my bad relationship, i was destroyed, my self esteem destroyed. I was angry. Enraged with the world, but especially with myself. I read Mode one and Radical Honesty. They changed my view on the world. Without any second thoughts, i was radically honest. I was still pissed at the world, but i looked at everything in an umost objective way, as honest as possible.

I was fed up with lies. So i told what was on my mind against my best friend, who was family of my ex. She was in fault as well, as she was catalyst for the lies. I told her what i thought about her, without scolding or namecalling. I never felt so powerfull in my life before.

Then the first time i did direct game, i looked her dead in the eye and said what i had to say. Perhaps some parts of my body language were not there yet, as i felt like i just shitted my pants. I stood there shaking on my knees. She must have seen it, but still, the effect was amazing, both on her as on myself. Rest assure mate, direct game makes a man out of you.

I wish you good luck!

cheers

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Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

OP, your friend is a retard.

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