First off I'm 17 in high school. I'm Indian but good looking about 5'6 muscular but bulky trying to get ripped. I grew up in a very strict household. I wasn't allowed to have friends till I could drive about 8 months ago. In that time period I learned alot more about myself I'm very social VERY. I'm grounded right now till I'm 18 which is about 2 months away. I've been in the pua community since 2009 since I had strict parents I really could not practice it. I've never kissed a girl before. I've always made posts on here trying to get help but now I'm explaining my whole story. My parents are very religious but they are part of a cult, this has made me paranoid and a very nervous person. It bothers me that they are so strict and since I can't go out I can't make pua advancements right now. Since I was raised this way it's affected me alot I don't celebrate holidays and it gets me loney. Also it has made me quit alot of things like I can't finish certain self help books because I can read but I never apply it. I feel trapped so to say.


When I'm 18 I get a car and I will go to clubs to get better at game I read the attraction code and am reading 60 years of challenge. For now my brother recommended me reading Anthony Robbins and doing his personal 30 days to power program to show me I CAN GET WHATEVER I WANT. I know that when I'm 18 I"ll have alot more freedom I can do slot better because for college which I'm staying local my uncle is going to rent me an apartment. So I"ll have my own place.


My other goal is to dj I'm getting my dj equipment for my birthday. The reason I'm getting this stuff and apartment is because of my uncle he knows what my family is like and wants me to get out of this environment. If I dj I know my social value will increase and I"ll be meeting tons of new people.

I know that once I'm 18 I"ll be less paranoid cause of my family but I"ll still have to work on it.

Getting on to the next part ( I'm going to tell you this story please don't critique me and say move on just help me I know it's going to be hard and a long process but this quote makes me belive in anything “You can have anything you want if you will give up the belief that you can't have it.”). So back in April I made friends with these kids that I am still friends with. They have a sister that's 2 years younger than me she's taller by about 2-3 inches but hates being tall. We"ll call her M. She likes to party and club and talk to alot of guys but she's pruded she hasn't gone past hooking up that's why her boyfriend of a year dumped her. Now you see I used to joke around with her brothers and say she scares me causes shes tall. After that she would always say to me even though I didn't know her "why do I scare you". She would yell my name. When I'd go to there house shed wait for me with her brothers sometimes. Shed want to hangout if invited her. But I was a pussy I disnt do anything about it. It got to the point where she messaged me when I was talking to her brother about girls and she seemed upset. Then my friend started taking to her and got her number but basically got friend zoned. Me M my friend and M's brother were eating dinner one day and M grabs my hand and says what would you do if I was dressed like that hooters girl I said I don't know lol I know I'm an afc. She then asked for my number I said idk if I want to give it to you jokingly. I'm very cocky a little to much. After that in the summer she still would talk to me. When school started she flirted with me in the hallway. She's a flirt with slot of guys but she was serious with me. Shed. Pull me aside to flirt something she doesn't do with other guys. I didn't make a move she lost attraction. But I still gave her attention so basically she could use me to make her feel better cause she knew I was scared. Some kid who I also knew told her that i was going to fuck and chuck her and she belived him for a little bit. I told her it wasn't true and we became friends. She stopped hugging me though cause she knew that I liked her but I was to afraid to make a move. I basically denied her. Now she met other guys shes the girl if you make out with her she"ll like you. She met this other guy that she apparently likes She didn't tell me her brother did. He's going to use her for sex. She knew I'm a complete AFC now. On Saturday I texted her " I don't want this to be akward but I like you more than a friend". 6 hours latter her response was " hey oh okay it's not gonna be akward" she told her brothers that I told her I liked her. On monday it was so akward cause everybody in our group of friends knew about it. She didn't say no to me but told her friends she only likes me as a friend. Since I sit next to her at lunch my friends in the other table were joking and made it akward. For me so I left for a little and came back. She was so akward around me she said hi and gave me food but if I said something to her she gave one word answers. Her brother called me the next day. He put her on the phone and she said hi and I said just put this thing past us she then said great and put her brother back on the phone. I friend zoned myself. I haven't been back to school cause my grandma died. I didn't really know her so it wasn't hard to deal with.

With my goals now getting ripped which should be completed in 3 months. Start leanring to dj. Get amazing with girls my goal is to have sex with 6 next year.
Do better in school. Get more friends expand my social circle. How do I break out of the friend zone with this girl? I know I have to freeze her out for a while and come back change amazing and show Im a sexual man. But how do I do this don't say it's not worth it for this girl. I know there are other girls out there that are BETTER but I have to do this to prove it to myself to know I have this capability. Because all my life people said I can't do this or that I'm tired of that shit. Please show me how to do this and get out of the friend zone. I know the process is going to take a year by freezing her out but I'm still willing to do it to prove to myself and everybody. If your going to say no please don't even comment. I'm trying to keep a positive state. Thanks guys.

Hey mate.

quite the story you got there.

Look, the first thing i do got to say is: great job on telling her. Lots of guys here would disagree, but i believe in having balls to say what is on your mind. Perhaps you should have told her in the face, instead of text, but still.

Then secondly: instead of just telling her that you like her more then just as a friend, tell her what you want. Its not only saying what is on your mind, its also stating and going for what you want!

Now, on your friends, it seems like they are still a bit childish. Making you feel awkward because you said what you said. I know this aint easy on your age, but try to disregard the childish reactions. Always think to yourself:at least i am on my way to change myself. change is evolution amigo. Change is power. you kinda remind of my meself.

As of the girl: from what i can read: she isnt interested in you. its not really friend zoned. You are using pick up terms, but actually its just age. You say this girl is 15? That is also still a girl. its a freaky age, in which popularity is king. Although you told us not to tell you: dont say leave her alone, this is what i am going to do.

Leave her cold and focus on your personal growth. Expand your social circle, widen your horizon. You are really into this DJ thing, then man, go for it! grow in it! Make yourself happy, then start doing some real seduction, or at least, start learning it .

Start from the start, and you will have guidance here for your questions. dont come with questions of stuff you read but not tried.

Grow and leave her cold. Keep cold contact, never be unfriendly to her, just take your distance, while you grow. Your time will come, have patience.

cheers.

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So you are saying forget about her now. Expand my social circle. Get a lot of girls. Become aswome have fun with my djing then try again in the future. When she's like 16/17? She dates guys from other schools by then I"ll be graduated muscular and in clubs djing. Try again at that time? Oh and btw it was a friend zone because shed hang out with me if I asked her. Shed also text me sometimes. Shed also hit me play with me and I sit next to her in lunch every day. Also when I'd hang out with her brother at there house shed be there.

I'm Indian, grew up in the US with traditional parents. Honestly, don't sweat about your folks. They want what's best for you, but they don't know any better. The best thing for you to do is move out, and develop as your own person. Also read philosophy and other books on faith and spirituality in order to shatter the crap the cult has taught. Also read the great late Christopher Hitchens. Your parents will eventually learn that you have to be your own person. Mine did.

As for DJing, as an old school raver, please don't be one of those DJ's who spins just to get girls. Spin because that's what you love and you have a good time doing it. It doesn't matter if you're spinning in Ibiza, a local dive bar, or your bedroom, you're having a blast and that's all that matter.

I agree with LD, move on, you have to do it whether you want to or not. The time you're wasting on a 15 year old is time you could be spending on a girl that may actually like you.

Keep this in mind about your friends, 10 years from now, you'll most likely be hanging out with a totally different group of friends. Make new friends, especially when you're in college.

Oh first off im djing cause I love it. It's something I always wanted to do. As for the girl it's just bugs me cause she seriously flirted with me for about 2 weeks then it died down. I just want to gether to prove to myself that I can. I felt like she did have a little attraction for me but I killed it. She's one of my best friends sisters. I know I can get her to prove to myself I can and honestly too if I dated her I would be closer to my friend. that's how I feel I know at this time and point in my life I can't have her but In the future it's a 100% possible. For now though I know I need to get other girls. Also for the record she did show some intrest cause one time she said rob kardahian was hot and shed fuck him. Then I said to her that her best friend was hot and she got jealous and said why don't you put her in the front of the car next time and walked away. She said this because I drove her and her best friend somewhere and her friend was in the back and M was I'm the front. Then her other friend I talked to said M had a conversation with her and told her that I wanted to get with her friend. So I'm not being dumb haha. Shes full blooded Italian by the way. Clearly again I can't get her know but I know it's possible I'm the future. Plus I will have so much fun djing.

Basically, yes . Dont mind that she is with somebody right now. This is life we are living, things change, almost nothing lasts forever, certainly not at the age you are in.

Really, life may set the odds against, but have patience and grow. All of a sudden, life smiles at you which the one shot you have been waiting for. Learn to look through the happy sunshine facade of most people, watch how they behave etc. Actually, there is much to learn hehehe.

To you it might seem friend zoned out, but honestly, its just the age and the social flow of teenagers. no worries, they will grow up

cheeers, and good luck!

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Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

Thanks man just two things. Can you explain the social flow of teenagers. Such as if Im graduated how does the social flow work because I'm not in high school anymore. Second does skin color matter? Me being Indian all the girls I like being Italian? Thanks

It's really cool that you have a lot of questions bro... Though, if you noticed, you will never run out of them.. ever.

Philosophers have been debating the same questions for thousands of years and not one has ever reach a final answer that couldn't be questions.

I understand you because i was just like you a lot of times, and then i learned I have to just let go, live and enjoy life for what it is.

Who cares why the grass is green? Is the answer going to change anything about the grass itself? I'd prefer to think that god had spinach for dinner and got diheria which led him to shitting all over the world, making green grass(shit) everywhere (just saying) Lets say I decided to argue that point with a biologist, i would have infinite rebuttles to his answer and so would he. We could go on for years and years and never agree.

Over analyzing gets you stuck in the same spot. Hell, you could be doing Djing research, or out making more for you equipment.

Analyzers analyze why guy the get girls, get girls while the guys are out shagging all the girls that they want, they're analyze how those guys do it.. Relate that to everything.

Just live bro.. WHo cares what you color is... Are you going to change it if it does effect you success with women? I doubt it.. Just live.

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I hear you man it's just hard because it's part of my personality. The while thing that bugs me is that I let this opportunity slip out of my hands. I have a feeling like she did have a little bit of attraction for me towards the end of summer. She used to always hug me but then I irratated her alot and we became friends that mess with each other. Her one brother didn't care about that I told her I liked her but her other brother got mad for the time being. Shes the flirty I'm going to get you jealous type and she's loud and crazy like me I just screwed it up for now. I know you say I don't want this kind of girl but I do for the sake of she's fun and for the feeling of I got her. I also remember that she did me 2 months ago asking Why I wasn't at the gym. Shes just a little immature but I know I can get her just not now. So that's what bugs me I know I still can get her in the future but it still hurts for now. I know that now I have to focus on my school and djing and working out so I benefit for the better.

Hey mate,
I understand your feelings. although they might seem contradictory (as you get irritated because you let it slip vs you really want this girl) they feel familiar to me.

Learn, so the next time, she wont slip away. Grow, so that next time when you look back, at least you tried. go out and do, so that you learn that there are more girls in the world. Understand that you still got time to eventually get this girl if you still want to.

THe flow of the social circle of teenagers is like chaos. Its a flow driven by insecurity (what will the others think about me) and popularity (basically the same). One small negative remark, one laugh can totally change how a teenager will behave. This is typical, its not adult. Mostly the flow does not go to what the person wants, but what the group wants. The paradox of teenagers is that they are in search of individualism but they need a group to do so.

I dont know if that was a good explanation.

Then the skin color matter: for some people skin color will matter, for other it wont. Its like ideology, religion or social status. it depends from one person to the other.

good luck!

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

Skin color does matter and it doesn't matter. When they first see you, they'll be thinking about all the other Indian people they know, which in most cases not many. So they may have some stereotypes about you, positive and negative. Fortunately today, there are a lot more positive images of Indian guys out there than there were when I was your age. Think of Kal Penn and Aziz Ansari. So they'll probably have a more positive of idea of who you are than you may think.

However once you open your mouth, it is all you. Skin color will not matter.

Hey bud, thanks for everything curious. The day she said no I got sick and my grandma died. Then there was a romour going around that I was crying at home cause she said no to me. How can I deal with this I don't want her and people thinking I'm a pussy?

I'd also say move on.

1. Because you don't want this 1 girl messing with your head and being your 1 goal when you start.

2. You are chasing her right now and people generally want what they can't have a nd vice versa. As you say as soon as you start doing your own thing, meeting girls and having fun that's massive DHV and the interest may grow again.

Good luck

p.s. LD - Archer is awesome, they should make you watch that shit at school!

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Hey bud, thanks for everything curious. The day she said no I got sick and my grandma died so I didn't go to school for the rest of the week. Then there was a romour going around that I was crying at home cause she said no to me. How can I deal with this I don't want her and people thinking I'm a pussy?

hehehe, yeah, they should! Duuh and or hello!!

@s5lover:

rumours are rumours. You cant do much about it. And if was you, i wouldnt care to much about them either. No matter what you say, chances are they still make fun out of it. They will look at you in a strange way, and you will feel terribly awkward, because you think you know what they are thinking.

If somebody approaches you and asks: is it true you was crying because she said no, or anything like that, just say: no, it aint true. and walk away.

I wouldnt try to deal with it, because the more it concerns you, the more fun they will have.

good luck mate!

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you