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 Post subject: PsychoLOGIC PUA!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:38 pm 
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We are men. We love logic. I am a man, therefore I also love logic.
Science is all based on logic, so that is for me, the only REAL EVIDENCE for situations we not yet know.
So I did my research, mostly involving psychological studies, and came to conclusions, conclusions based on what I have read and what I know from experience in social situations.
I also came across a very interesting website: here. I don't know about the credibility of it, but it really fascinates me in an emperical way. (edit: this site is really everything you need to know about human interactions)

Social interactions between people can be observed, in which body language, verbality, thus thoughts, can be (partly) 'read', assuming that the emotional state or mental state of the person being read, is near neutral.

So a psychologist did research in the speeddating world with 75 females and 75 males, average age is 19.6, in which they get 4 minutes to talk and see if there is any attraction. They also had to fill in other questions afterwards, e.g.: "To what percentage of the other people here today will you say 'yes'?". (There were measures taken against that unattractive people liked everyone and were disliked by everyone, see footnote 2)
What he came up with was that 'people who desired everyone were consistently disliked.
People that showed unique interest in that particular person got positive reciprocal effects, while people that showed equal interest in everyone got negative 'responses'.
Therefore we can say that girls want to feel special in a way, while I frequently hear about jerks not caring about her. Discuss.


What concerns me most, is that almost everything is/seems contradicting/paradoxal.

For example:
Direct or indirect game?

Attraction is desire. You want her/him.
Desire is triggered when we see or think about something we want.
Desire also increases when we are offered something, then taken away, offered back, taken away. This is an example of the scarcity principle.

These are not written for PUA, but for human psychology in general. People want what they can't have.
One of my interpretation is: Direct game, at least when you practically surrend yourself to her, is not creating attraction or desire in her, for she already has you.

Indirect game doesn't give the girl that special feeling, so the positive reprocity won't be much.

"Fear of disappointment can lead us to stay in the fantasized state, as can self-doubt about our abilities to achieve our desires."


Everybody that reads this, I am convinced that the above given website(in particular section: relationships) is of major importance for really understanding social interactions. Tell me what you think of parts of it in relation to PUA.

Learning is earning.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:19 pm 
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Let me highlight two points that your information is making:

1. Don't game every single girl who walks in your path
2. Don't game a girl who saw you game a few others before
3. Don't use direct game because if the girl knows she can have you, you won't be attractive.

I agree with 1 and 2. However, I partially disagree with 3.

In fact, you can very easily say that you are attracted to a girl, and at the time say something like MM: "What do you have going on apart from your looks". This will prove that you might think she is cute and physically attracted, but if nothing is going on for her that interests you, you'll just move on.

You'll then be searching for qualification on her behalf, and she will have to show you she is good enough for you.


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