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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:07 pm 
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Rejection is somthing ive faced so many times. im 17, a virgin, and lost so many girls due to needyness. but im getting there. i met a girl online, she was the best looking girl i knew. i kissed her without problem (my first kiss too). she never rejected me because i cheated on her. she never rejected me because i was jealous. she rejected me because i said i love her.

now, its going to be a hard long wait to get over this girl. so much time and effort gone into every message, so much time together, all to a brutal end.

im going out tommorow, hopefully ill get afew numbers. ived never approached before. i just keep getting rejected and it's killing me. any advice from you guys, please.

the thing with me is when ever ive never had a lady friend, i usually block them on everything to try and forget about them. i get so jealous, im sick of feeling like this.

last night was the first time i cried in 6 years, it was the closest i got to a girl who appriciated me. After being 8 months in the game.

call me a wuss, i woulnt be surprised. this is a side of me that only i know. outside, im a cocky funny alpha. thats what hurts the most.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:08 pm 
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You see, a lot of people get into pick up trying to get a girlfriend. But what they don't realize, there is bunch of bullshit handle, and situation like yours happens a lot.

If they go through what you go through, there game would be a lot better. They would naturally qualify women. Also, your only 17, don't even go for a girlfriend, just get friends with benefits.


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Rejection is somthing ive faced so many times. im 17, a virgin, and lost so many girls due to needyness. but im getting there. i met a girl online, she was the best looking girl i knew. i kissed her without problem (my first kiss too). she never rejected me because i cheated on her. she never rejected me because i was jealous. she rejected me because i said i love her.

now, its going to be a hard long wait to get over this girl. so much time and effort gone into every message, so much time together, all to a brutal end.

im going out tommorow, hopefully ill get afew numbers. ived never approached before. i just keep getting rejected and it's killing me. any advice from you guys, please.

the thing with me is when ever ive never had a lady friend, i usually block them on everything to try and forget about them. i get so jealous, im sick of feeling like this.

last night was the first time i cried in 6 years, it was the closest i got to a girl who appriciated me. After being 8 months in the game.

call me a wuss, i woulnt be surprised. this is a side of me that only i know. outside, im a cocky funny alpha. thats what hurts the most.
A couple of things to consider:

1- Is cocky/funny part of your personality? If it's not you might be coming off as "fake" by some women. Trust me, women can tell. Simply, if this kind of personality is just a show you're putting out there, please stop. Adjust to your reality and you'll be more successful.

2- Every time you get rejected, you should be learning something new about yourself and others. If you're not learning you're not paying enough attention. If you go sarging, make sure you write down everything that went on during your interactions. The more you document, the more insight you'll get about you.

3- Men shouldn't say they love women unless they're 100% sure those women are IN LOVE with them first. How can you tell? Well, is she always calling you? Does she want to spend as much time as possible with you? Does she truly care about your well-being? Does she want you to introduce her into your lifestyle (friends, family, etc)?

4- This is a continuation of #3: Never rush things. Part of being a PUA and an overall confident person is to be able to calibrate interactions and relationships. To me this is how I go about developing feelings for someone: I meet the person - game her - have sex - spend some more time with her (if I want to) - keep having more sex - eventually I decide if I want to get more serious.

You're 17. You are young. This is not the end of the world. Get to know more women, go out, sarge, fail, try again, and keep an open mind. Becoming good with women is not an over-night process.

Come on man, pull yourself together. :)

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I'm around your age too, 18 here. The problem is that when you told her you love her, you showed her all your cards. It no longer became exciting to her because she knew she had you exactly where she wanted you. Girls at our age want to chase, especially the hot ones. They could find 50 other guys that fall in love with them, but if they find one that doesn't say it, then they'll actually start to love YOU! It's screwed up, but that's just the way it works. I've made the same mistake as you several times, and I eventually learned to keep my mouth shut. If you wait long enough, they'll be dying to telling YOU "I love you," not the other way around.

I started putting this tip to use 13 months ago when I got with a girl who I was starting to love. Guess what? I kept my mouth shut about it until SHE came out and said "I love you" first, and even then I was a little wary of telling her flat out that I was in love with her. So I told her "I think I'm starting to love you :)." See what effect that had? It showed her that there was still progress to be made, and I wasn't simply gonna hand my love out for free. I would strongly suggesting holding off on the full-out "I'm in love with you" until you've slept with her. (Unless she's a virgin who insists that her first time should be with someone who loves her. That's an exception.)

Oh and guess what else? ... I'm still with her. :) You can do it man, just don't jump the gun and make sure to keep your lovey dovey feelings to yourself... at least at first.


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thank you all for replying. ive taken everything on board. what makes me sad is that all the effort for nothing. soo much work and shit. but i still fucked up . thinking back, i have a few problems you could help me with

on the day after of the day 2, do i text her or wait for her to text me? it seems like an awkward silence, im not usually like this with regular textes.

i became so jealous about her, our lifes are so different. she's a party girl, out every night getting wasted probably shagging a guy who she just met excluding me out of the picture.

i dont have a place to have sex at

i am a model..but ive lost so many girls, im still working on myself. all i want is to lose this virginity and a girl, someone to talkto without being judged as needy. im rambling on.


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thank you all for replying. ive taken everything on board. what makes me sad is that all the effort for nothing. soo much work and shit. but i still fucked up . thinking back, i have a few problems you could help me with

on the day after of the day 2, do i text her or wait for her to text me? it seems like an awkward silence, im not usually like this with regular textes.

i became so jealous about her, our lifes are so different. she's a party girl, out every night getting wasted probably shagging a guy who she just met excluding me out of the picture.

i dont have a place to have sex at

i am a model..but ive lost so many girls, im still working on myself. all i want is to lose this virginity and a girl, someone to talkto without being judged as needy. im rambling on.
You sound almost exactly like me a year ago. I kept wondering what the perfect move to make was. But to be honest, after day 2, if you want to talk to her then text her! It asserts your Alpha-ness if you talk to her when YOU want to. You could text her immediately, or you could wait a few days: it's ultimately up to you. Think "I AM the man!" But if you want to calibrate your next move better, keep an eye out for her behavior on day 2. Is she having a great time? Does she seem fascinated with you? Is she smiling a lot? etc. The more positive behavior you see, the less you'll have to worry about who texts first, cuz SHE WILL! Lol. But if she still has some warming up to do, text her first and nudge her toward being a little more open and fun with you. (Unless she's lost all interest in you. In which case, you should abandon ship and go find someone else so you don't seem clingy.)

I learned recently that jealousy is pointless. Girls are gonna do what they want. Being jealous isn't going to change that, so it will only hurt you. A more productive thing to do is to act attractively and make her want to hang out with YOU more. You can't be jealous when she's giving you all the attention ;)

I didn't have a place to have sex at either. I still don't lol. So my girl and I had to get creative. We've fucked in a lot of high-risk places, making it even more exciting for her. Now, when I see her, she can't get enough of it! Girls are always attracted to things that they shouldn't be doing. Just look at Adam and Eve lmao.


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Everybody made some good points but I want to make a slightly different one:

You may not agree to me, and I may be wrong...but it sounds like part of the reason you said you loved her/feel like shit is not because you ACTUALLY loved this girl, but because you really wanted to have sex, and you are a virgin. Man let me tell you, there are much more important things than sex. I've been with over 100 girls and the best hook-up of my life was just kissing a girl I had strong feelings for (it was also months after a breakup and she was cheating on her new BF but thats a different story...).

SO ADVICE FROM FIERY:
(1) Stop stressing about sex.
(2) Girls are basically psychic, and if they think you are needy it is probably because you are. Learn to be very happy with yourself, play some video games, drink some beer, obey (1), and find a passion that excites that you dont just do to get girls; suddenly you wont be needy anymore and youll get many more girls, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY you will be much happier as a person.

Hope I helped a little,
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