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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:47 pm 
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One problem I have is that, on one day, I'm like very playfull and confident, and they'll have high expectations of me, while the other day I see them again, I'm not in the mood to be playfull or talkative because I feel tired and also (as a result) less secure and less playfull.

How to act to women on occasions when I'm going to meet women (I already know), but when I'm tired, not talkative and not in the mood? Should I tell them I'm tired and not in a good mood? This happens to me often and it causes me to fuck things up so I want to know how to deal in these situations.

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Let her do the talking and say you're having some moodswings. But stay polite and try to get your mood up.


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Have you tried sleeping more? Could be a health related reason.

If it's just part of your personality, then you shouldn't worry about hiding it. It could be exciting for them, things won't get boring if you're always in a different mood.


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Yeah it's part of my personality more or less.

I just came back from going out with some girls.
They asked me alot how if everything was allright. I wasn't even depressed. But they kept saying that I looked tired and sad. Maybe I was a bit bored as well.
I can assume that it's only positive when they worry about me being "sad" or "tired'.

But more often I fuck things up when being tired. Maybe I should stop trying to get a conversation going when bein tired or moody and just shut up.

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Hey Shyler I had this problem really often when I started out. It was college and I only slept 4 hours and talking to girls was like running a marathon for me on those days. Now, that's only because you feel you have to talk to them. You feel that if you don't do or say something you'll lose your value and lose these girls. It's completely not true. As a strong alpha guy you have your values and one of those values is that when you're tired your not going to amuse woman and be playful. Think about it, girls have the same thing. Many times I approached girls and they didn't even want to talk because they were either in a bad mood or tired but I used to always think it's my fault. It wasn't my fault. All it was is girls just being tired. The problem was within them, not me. If you're tired your tired these girls will understand. And if they don't and think your lower value or boring because of this they don't deserve you. When they see that you have your values your standards and don't care of what they think of this boring unattractive character of yours will seem attractive to them. Good Luck.

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One of the best ways I perk myself is to just drink a cup of coffee. Simple!

If you're not a coffee drinker, try tactics below:

I use to use this when I was new to dating but I would psyche myself up. I have scripts in my head, "I like her, she likes me, we're going to have fun." I play it over and over in my head and it helps me. Try it.

I use the tactic below oftentimes when I'm just really not in the mood to talk.
Another way is to warm up right before you meet those girls. I think I got this from David D. I would just call up one of my girl friends and just chat her up and joke around. Or I would just randomly talk to any stranger. It's a great warm up and I get into the "mood" when I meet my ladies.


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I don't know if 'moodswings' would be the right word, to me that kind of makes you sound like a pubescant teenage girl but building on that I would definitely tell her if you're feeling a bit out of it, don't try and act energetic when you're not feeling up to it, it wont come across right.

It's not such a bad thing to show girls that you have more than one gear, you never know, she might like the 'tired' version of you, she might think that it's cute or she might even like that you're listening to her better and enjoy the change of pace.

At risk of sounding cliche 'be yourself' or better yet be natural and remember that most seductions are made during times of low energy, not high energy.

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if you run a "high energy" game (like a circus clown) some of the time, and then are the "real" you the rest of the time, people will notice and even ask things like "what is wrong?"

i'm not saying that you do this, i'm just saying i could see it being a problem for the kind of guys that think pua is about peacocking, amogging, dancing like a buffoon, etc

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the more laid back methods like 60 yoc

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One problem I have is that, on one day, I'm like very playfull and confident, and they'll have high expectations of me, while the other day I see them again, I'm not in the mood to be playfull or talkative because I feel tired and also (as a result) less secure and less playfull.

How to act to women on occasions when I'm going to meet women (I already know), but when I'm tired, not talkative and not in the mood? Should I tell them I'm tired and not in a good mood? This happens to me often and it causes me to fuck things up so I want to know how to deal in these situations.
Is this a general pattern or is it something which has happened occasionally with you?

Either way, look at it in the way that this gives you a chance to show her two different sides of you, in two interactions. Women absolutely go bonkers for guys with "depth", as they like to call it, and here you can show them yours.

Now, you can either behave in your state in the laid-back guy way (think Clint Eastwood in his cowboy movies) or the depressed, sad guy way (think Kevin Spacey in American Beauty), either way you need to be able to re-frame the situation in your head, when you're in a low mood.

Anyway, saying less than necessary is actually a very good quality to have. Seduction and otherwise. So, you're not in the red, as to say.

Another 'cheat' trick that I use when I am in a down mood is to use phrases like "I see", "Yeah", "I agree with you." and just general agreement stuff to show that I am listening to her (even if I am barely even there). And if caught, tell her that you were thinking about something and if she could repeat what she said.

I guess it's up to you, the way you decide to handle this. I've given my suggestions.

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It's more of a pattern. Throughout the year, I have periods when I feel confident, sexy, energetic, calm and seductive, other periods I'm mostly tired, uncomfortable, not motivated and my confidence is on a low level. And that is not a good state to converse with women. Maybe it is worse now because of the winter? I still get a lot of light by going outside though.

It's a problem when I'm in a down mood. I have 2 options then: either, I can try to act normal (and that is where I think I fuck up mostly), or I can just don't give a fuck about everyone one and act aloof and annoyed to everyone, which would be more natural but which I think won't be very productive either.

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