Growing up I got some really bad advice about women.
Here are some:

1. Ask girls out on weekdays, because they tend to already have plans on weekends
2. Hold eye contact for very long. For one girl I held eye contact for way too long and it creeped her out. Luckily it only took 1 mistake to help me realise that it's weird.

What other bad advice was given?

a few years ago some girl broke up with me, I kind of wanted her back, so my friend told me to write her

"you make me feel so speechless whenever I'm with you, you're the only person that makes me happy in my life, and I love you to death, please reconsider your action, I'll always be here for you."

I look back and realize holy crap that was major AFC. LOL

Guy told me to go tell a chick that "my cock was too big for her"... lulz followed.

Eye contact is only weird if you feel weird doing it.

Worse advice I've ever gotten was someone telling me that I had to become a "different person" in order to become successful with women. It took years of learning otherwise to find out he was full of shit. Moral of the story, most guys do not have to change who they are to become better with women, they just have to learn what they are good at. That will get you much further than changing yourself.

Holding eye contact is great.. look at edward from twilight and how many girls are all over his dick, its because he is so expressive with his eyes. This is textbook body language and not up for debate.

"Be yourself"
Bullshit lol, bein myself got me 0 girls until I decided my senior year in highschool the world is screwin me over (at least someone was) and I gotta change

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Completely agree, guru.

Going up and asking her a question you don't care about, just to start a conversation.
Acting like you don't want to talk to her, and you're only interested in the question. When in reality, it's the complete opposite.

You really don't understand the meaning of "being yourself"? It's kinda sad that most around here have to get into characters to pull women. "Being yourself" really means knowing what you are strong at and what you can do well. Any person that "knows themselves" and knows what they are good at understands that being who you truly are is not a bad thing. I got "0" girls when I put myself into "character" and tried to "act" tough, cocky and funny. When I started to realize who I was and what I was good at, and what I actually liked to do personally, I became much more successful. More guys would be successful if they understood who they are, what they are good at, and what they liked to do. Sad truth is that most guys don't, they spend time focusing on what they are bad at, trying to improve on things they may hate doing so they get the results that they seek out, weakness, inadequacy, and failure. And if that is what you seek out when you try to improve your life, then that is what you will get.

However, all people are individuals and I certainly won't knock what works for one individual. That just means that it works for that one individual. I am speaking from my personal experience, and not from the vantage point of another individual. I failed miserably when I tried to act like I was someone else, or I spent my time trying to improve weaknesses instead of harnessing strengths.
Lol, you must not have much life experience. I've just seen too many shy and timid guys pull women with the shy attitude to believe this non-sense. Now I will not debate that eye contact and expression are quite attractive qualities for most women, but it is not something to which all men must aspire to. There are other ways than what is being defined here in your own statement. Engaging people the way that is most natural to you will most likely garner the successful an individual seeks. Edward is a charming and respectable individual; however, one thing that Edward is good at is using his body language, because he is an actor, body language comes natural to him. It is his form of expression, his form of speech.

Every man has his own form of speech which he can master. But most men shy away from finding their voice which would truly make them strong. Some men are great orators, debaters, and salesmen. For them, the natural form of communication would be to talk. It could potentially have the same effect over a woman as Edward's body language. Some men's natural language is to listen, some women feel safe telling them things and confiding in them. For other men it may be sight, they may see things about an individual no other man can see. They could potentially be observant and notice things no other man can notice.

The point being, that body language is not some ultimatum, nor it is it required for success with women. Knowing your specific talents and strengths could have the same effect. I have too much life experience to really believe a lot of the stuff spoken here. However, I don't disrespect it, because that is the image that "PUA" pursues. And hell, I'm strong enough to admit that I may have found the wrong community. If the "bad boy strong image" is one that this community pursues then hey, I respect that. I am just telling people here, that it is not required. There are other ways of achieving what you desire to achieve. You just have to be open to knowing your own talents, and most people spend their lives worried about what they aren’t talented in.
But that isn't being yourself at all, that's being someone else in the hopes of impressing a woman. Even I knew that ...

Once when I was a total AFC I had been "dating" a girl for like 1 or 2 months already. Of course I was in her deepest friendzone and my female friend told me that I should buy her a flower. Obviously I bought her a red rose ...Oh dear... that was like one of the most stupid things I've ever done in my life!

I was 17, she was 14 btw

Sorry, but being myself truly would mean apologizing alot, putting others feelings before me all the time, telling everyone how much I love comic books, buying women presents, ect..............

I had to fundamentally change my personality to attract women... tease them, emphasize respect for me, not express feelings half as much as id like to, ect.

Guys who act like alpha males with women get the women. This is why I fake it. Guys who KEEP trying to act like alpha males with their buddies, family, ect....aka that is really THEM....those guys, in my mind, are total assholes for the most part.

Truly nice dudes cant be themselves to the fullest extent with women.

I must not understand "being yourself?" I never had any outside influence from age 0-17 on how to game, it was only my purest self. I never knew AFC, kino, openers and all that shit. So being my own unfiltered self I got ZERO girlfriends, and ZERO numbers; and I'm still not "strong" in any one thing because picking and choosing things in PUA is like asking for a ice cream cone with sprinkles, but no ice cream - its retarded. Maybe you had influence in your young PUA life when you had this preconceived notion or you were lucky enough to have natural game, but most guys don't so I can sympathize with what normally happens.

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To game at your best you have to be willing to do your worst.

Charlbad and Lionheart9999 are both correct and dicklow is wrong. Stop living in fantasy land.
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Thats Seems like great advice TBH, I'm guessing whoever told you that gets laid a shit ton.


Worst advice is usually given by woman about woman. I would say a combo of "ya call her again and tell her how you feel" Usually horrible advice

And "just be yourself" ya , as Charlbad said, hows that working out for you bro?

1.For me, this is a good advice. I, for one, have plans for weekends. And I want girls who have plans for weekends.

2.Being weird and creepy is good in way that it makes you cope better with social pressure. When you're doing something "creepy", but you're completely relaxed, it's so much fun to put pressure on that other person and to know that you've grown and that you live in your own reality.

In my opinion there are no bad advice. Since women are unlimited resource, you can try all kinda stupid shit. And enjoy while doing it.

As for your question, in this stage of my development as man, I would say that the biggest bullshit is the concept of DHVs, and that you have to DHV yourself. Most girls just look for normal guys.

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I have to return some videotapes...

Hence why i was saying, it's bad advice...