I talked with a girl on FB which I didn't know but I managed that she was willing to drink something at a bar next monday 8 pm.
But I have never done such thing before with a girl (I'm 18).

I am not worried about having not enough material to talk about but I have some other thing I don't know and would like to know.

Is it normal to wait outside 'till this girl shows up or should I go inside already and wait for her there? And if I should wait inside should I order a drink before she shows up? (I guess not).

And is it weird to give her a kiss because this is the first time we meet? Or should I just give her a hand (or nothing at all?)

Hopefully I'm not asking too much

Wait inside, find a nice table. Just give her a hug. no kiss, no handshake.
As far as the drink goes, it's a nice gesture to wait, but not a game breaker if you dont.

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I don't think there is anything wrong with kissing her on the cheek, i do it myself and get away with it every time.

It's not necessary though i guess.

I mean, ideally if this is a date you would travel, arrive, and leave together. You should pick her up instead of meeting her at the bar.. Unless the situation is that you are already going there anyway, in which case it's fine to just invite her to meet you up there.

If it doesn't work out this way, then yeah go wait for her inside.. Don't just sit outside like a shmuck! If this were my only option, I would make it a point to be in the bar with a drink, talking to 1 or more girls already when she arrives. This will DHV you off the bat - even if you aren't talking about ANYTHING with these girls and you completely bomb the set - your girl will see you talking to the girls and assume that you werent. When she arrives, feel free to introduce her to your new friends if you want, but then excuse yourselves and take her somewhere else. Girls like a social guy.

Its definitely not weird to kiss her since it's the first time you've met - on the contrary, now is the MOST IMPORTANT time to kiss her. Its best to set the tone of your interests in her as romantic right off the bat, unless you want to end up in the friend zone. Trust me on this one - a girl will write you off FOREVER if you don't make a move on her in time.. but no girl will ever write you off for making your move on her, even if she rejects it. She will still respect you for it, you have made your intentions clear, and you can try again on day 2 with better kino and more comfort/attraction.

I have a little rule that I live by.. every time I take a girl out for the first time, I kiss her atleast once. Every single time. If it feels right at some point during the date I'll go for it then, and if not then I kiss her when I say goodbye for the night. I have done this on dates that went well, as well as on dates that were a train wreck. Girls that gave me tons of IOIs, and girls who gave me none at all. Sure I've had a couple girls turn the cheek, but the VAST majority of the time I end up getting kissed back. It's that simple. Your intentions are known, you are green lighting further physical escalation with this girl on your next date, you kiss lots of girls, and most importantly this girl will never (read: NEVER) view you as a pussy who is too scared to make a move on her. If she ends up just wanting to be friends, so be it.. But you can be damn sure it wasn't because you were too scared to make your move on her.

I think at some point early in our PUA careers we have all lost atleast 1 girl's interest because we didn't make the move in time. This is my remedy, and I use it religiously because it works. Good luck! More questions, ask away

I've moved away from hugging to funny handshakes.

Hugging often get associated with AFC's so I've seen that it sets a bad frame when you first meet with some woman, even though hugging isn't AFC per se.

This is an interesting consideration, thanks for posting.

OP: I didn't realize you meant when you first meet her at the beginning of the date. At this point, no it's not ok to kiss her yet.. You have to build up to that on your date. But definitely some form of physical contact when you meet her - either give her a hug, or if you decide that's AFC then go to give her a hand shake and do something funny with it, get her laughing right off the bat

To further expound on the hugging thing Guru so you can appreciate my point.

When I used to hug girls I just met on dates, from daygame or interwebz, I would often observe negative body language from them, timid responses on how to reciprocate my hug, and general discomfort. Not all of the girls but a lot.

When I give them one of my funny handshakes, I made a couple up I alternate; one I call the "V-block" (which you will know if you grapple) the other is "Lucy" in which I move my hand when they are about to make contact. The funny handshake idea came from DDA and I like the results. They always laugh and it breaks rapport in an attractive way.

This is also something that i have never really thought about in depth! great observation, detox. I'm interested to find out more about this. One of my friends hugs every single girl he meets, and i always feel like he's coming across as a try hard when he does it. Also it's very space invasive.

That's a good way to express what I sensed I was conveying when I used to hug on meeting dates.

Now before random and sundry people jump in contradicting "hug game", I do think there are social context's in which hugging can be good game and kino escalation etc. , but not in this case.

Yeah, agreed, i definitely think hugging has a high chance of coming off needy, and if it doesn't come off needy it can come across as saying "we're bros" more than "i want to fuck you"

I think you are all forgetting the main issue here, the OP seems incredibly nervous about his meeting. Try to go in for a kiss(seem over eager) even just on the cheek may not work so well. as well as an oddly hand shake( seem awkward and not personal enough). A hug is a hug....its simple and easy, plus you can get a lot about a persons personality by how they hug( even on the first meeting) If you are weighing the entire date on the first contact, then you people are way off, that's what the date and drinks are for.

This is two people that have made arrangements to meet, the initial interest has already been shown, it's not as if he is just walking up to a random and trying to hug them, that is a completely different story.

A hug is international, it's friendly, flirty and a sign of a warm person.

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I always hug women when i see them, it has never failed me yet. If it's genuine, it will always shine through.

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alright she dosnt know you as a person so picking her up might set off her weird alarm. Ive met quite a few girls online and everyone is different. Ask her "do you want me to pick you up or just meet up there?" she will tell you her comfort level. Go with that.

Chances are she will wana meet there. If she says 8pm.. be there 805 or 810. Not to late, but a little wont kill her and chances are she will be late (shes a girl).

Hug her when you first see her. You can even do the one arm thing, girls LOVE to give and receive hugs. dont shake her hand. Ive done that before and it sorta sets the tone of your personality. Hand shakes are for business men, girls with boyfriends (present) , and girls your not interested in.

If you get there before her get a drink dont get drunk but its cool. If a band is playing even better. See if u can make conversation with the people around you (usually bar people are cool to this cuz there gettn drunk lol) That way when she walks in she sees your not just sitting there counting your fingers and you will be DHV.

Kissing her will depend on how things are going. If it feels shes into you and shes showin the signs go for it. But Not to soon. Be sure shes going to want that. But yes its fine to do it on the first date. IMO i dont grab ass or tits on first dates with girls i actually respect and like. N if you dont they will respect you for it. If you just wana bang her see how heavy she gets into the making out (if it happens) and proceed from there.

SexAddict911 you correct we derailed this thread to talk about "Hug game" its such a great topic we may have to write a book on it then get VinDeCarlo to sell it to millions of noobs and get rich.

And the context of when you hug is very likely different then what I was referring to. Lets not make a fallacy of the composite.

Just like how new guys mess up Kino very badly its easy to set the wrong frame with superfluous or mishandled hugging, I think that point remains extant.