I have a few numbers in my phone that are "dead" numbers. And by that I mean these girls either never replied back to my text/calls in the first place, or they used to be interested but lost interest.

Here's an example. One of them is this girl I met in class and talked to a few times. After the last class of the term, I walked with her for a few minutes and got her number. I must have not done a good job attracting or making her feel comfortable cause she reluctantly gave it to me after I asked twice. I texted her twice and called her once (spread out over a few days). No reply. Then she texts me the day before the exam and asks me if ____ is gonna be on the exam. Yeah like I'm gonna help her after she ignores me three times in a row. So I ignored her text. Saw her during the exam, we smiled at each other, held eye contact till she looked away. I finished the exam ten minutes before the deadline. I didn't want to sit around and "check my answers" just to wait for her so I left. (In retrospect, that might have been my last shot with her since my phone game is garbage). I texted her after dinner asking her how the exam went. Not surprisingly, no reply.

Here's the dilemma I'm trying to figure out. I know that persistence is attractive when it's done in a socially intelligent way. But at what point does it become harassment? They say if a girl ignores you three or four times in a row, wait a week and try again. But I think girls delete your number eventually if they never want to see you again. I know one of the girls I have in mind (not this one) has probably deleted me since we haven't talked in almost a month. I'm just afraid of getting a text from them that says "who are you?" or "OMG STOP TEXTING ME I ONLY GAVE YOU MY NUMBER CAUSE I DIDNT WANT TO BE RUDE FFS". I know a lot of you are gonna say move on and meet new girls. But I don't like letting things go. How do you guys deal with "dead" numbers?

This "dead" number IS dead.

I think it all depends on how much you invest yourself into it (money, time, emotions, thinking about her). As long as you don't care if she replies or not, you can always send extra text and look at it like social experiment.

Dead number is a often times a dead number. But once you get the chance to see the girl, you can start again. And the best frame to have for this is that you felt something in that moment you saw her again and you acted on it. So you don't care about her, think about her, but you are a man, real, strong man and you go after what you want even if you didn't get it the first time. Even if you don't get her at all.

This weekend I met a girl in the club and tried to get her home even if I knew she doesn't do if often. She said she isn't gonna do that. Ten minutes later I asked her for a coffee date and asked her for a number. She said that she doesn't give out her number and we could only go to coffee as friends. I told her I am not interested in that, and did one thing I've never done before. I gave her my number and told her if she changes her mind she can call me. And I told her that she can delete it right away. She didn't call. And she probably won't. But I just don't care. And I don't look on it as low value thing like I would a year ago.

Hope this helps. Cheers!

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Well I don't let it get to me, cause there's no point whining about a girl not responding. So I agree about not caring. But is it really a social experiment to keep texting someone who just won't reply? Or is that harassment? That's what I'm curious about. Where you draw the line. Cause I feel like if I keep texting some of these girls, it's harassment. I guess I'm just afraid of seeing a text like "OMFG I DELETED YOUR NUMBER A WEEK AGO AND IGNORED YOUR LAST 3 TEXTS. CAN YOU TAKE HINTS AND FUCK OFF?"

When I'm apsoulutelly sure that she is not gonna sleep with me. And I don't trust her the first few times she says that.[/quote]
Very few girls will actually say this. And when I met one who has the balls to say that to me, I respect her. And I make sure she knows I respect her and show her that she meets my standards. If I don't meet hers, thats ok.
Do you see the pattern here? How you associate negative feelings for showing interest in girls. Guess what? They fucking like it. I just returned from work and while waiting for a bus I say some teenage girls (I'm 26 btw) giggling and overheard that one of them was texting some guy and they all had butterflies in the stomach about it. They want you to text them even if they dont like you.

So I would tell you to work on your beliefs. Look for Hypnotica's deep inner game. It really help me out.

Best Regards,
Defy

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hey man it seems you have some misconceptions about dead numbers, dead number are not flakes, they are dead, if a girl answers her phone, and texts you, and flirts and chats on the phone all the time but will never meet you, these are called flakes, you give them 3 or 4 chances then only hit them up once a week, how ever if you have a girl not answering at all, that is a dead number, maybe at most hit that up once a month, and eventually expect to get a text back something along the lines of (who is this?), the answer is the man of your dreams, and start gaming from there, but here is the thing,

your value, vs the investment she has in you, are being considered during the pickup, if she does not value you, and you have to beg for her phone number, the phone number is no good, no amount of lines and dhv stories will change this, she is showing clear dis-interest and you are not taking that into account and calibrating to the situation, girls give there phone numbers out all the time to get rid of guys, it is easier to not answer/flake then it is for them to outright reject you, that would make them feel like they are not the pure angels that they wish they were

you have to go out and find girls that think you are cute, and actually want to spend time with you, and actually want to have sex with you, not just talk to hotties that want nothing to do with you and have better options (don't get me wrong talk to all the damn hotties you can, just don't put any extreme focus on any particular girl until she has earned your investment i.e. at least a makeout)