I'm sure most of you know about the apocalypse opener, which almost instantly asks the girl if she wants to have sex with you, basically at the beginning of the conversation. The idea of the opener is to be a 'shock and awe' method, with quantity over quality. Don't spend too much time on one girl, and you'll be talking to a lot more girls. Your chances are pretty slim, but (the numbers vary) 1/20 girls might say yes.

I was wondering, how can you apply this opener to more of a teenage group? At 16, targeting 16 year old girls, you will almost never get an F-close, so how can I make this work?

Would going up to her and saying something like this work?

Me: Hey
Her: Hey
Me: What are you doing later?
Her: Nothing, bla bla bla.
Me: Let's go make out.

Sounds about right, change the "what are you doing later" to "what are you doing right now" and make out with her right then tho

If ur a predator looking to get some teenage girl,
I say FUCK YOU!


But if ur a teenager in that age, girls that age don't know wtf they want at all! Just be smooth about things.

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For got to give props to guruman!

That's awsome!

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No, I'm 16, and obviously most of this material is aimed at guys in their 20s.

With the actual apocalypse opener, you're supposed to say "Let's go back to my place" which means "I want to have sex with you", but you're not actually saying it.

Is there a more subtle way to say "I want to make out with you?"

The point of the apocalypse opener (and the reason why it works) is because you aren't being subtle, at all. You want to be as direct as possible

So something like this would work well, word for work?

Telling him to be smooth is not really going to get him far
He's trying to be direct as possible, not worrying about the smoothness, going up and saying to a girl "i'm going to take you to a place and then fuck you" Doesn't always a line with smooth.

If you're going to do it, don't do a half arsed job, go full direct.

I'm not saying to say the opener in a smooth way but to mentally be smooth with the way he controls the set and not panic no matter the answer.

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I'm not gonna fuck around so here: When I was a teen there once was a party with only soda drinks and one girl walking through the whole room asking every boy if he and her could kiss. It was lame, it was rediculous and the girl had no social standing whatsoever. Moral of the story: don't.

Me: Hey
Her: Hey
Me: What are you doing later?
Her: Nothing, bla bla bla.
Me: Let's hang out

to be honest in high school it was about developing comfort with girls then hooking up at some party, or getting into a relationship with h er