Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for a book on PU to start reading and I don't know which one I should read since there are so many on the market!

Here's my background:

I never really read any books about PU but I am not new to the game. I have no problem gaming girls and I also have no problem at all getting girls interested in me (Relashionship wise). I have seen a lot of information about pick up since I've been in the community for more than a year! That being said, I know the basics (ED, kino, C&F and all) so I am not really interested in reading books for beginners.

After all, I am basically looking for a book that would help me step up my game... Improve my skills. I was actually thinking of getting Pandora's box. What do you guys think of it?

I've been doing night game (mostly dancefloor game) for the past 2 years and this is were I think I am at the top of my game! Anyhow, I would say that my problem is often to fully close the girl in the same night (SNL) since my logistics are really bad (I live with my parents and it's 1 hour away from the city).

What do you guys think I should read?

Thank you

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

natural art of seduction by richard la ruina

60 years of challenge

60 years of challenge, or MM

to be honest most books about PU kind of suck..

all audiobooks and video material is much better...

you might want to listen to david deangelos interview with dating gurus... he interviews all the guys who write books and give seminars .. many hours of materials and you can listen to it while you are driving your car or when you are going to sleep. it's cheap as well...

you have almost 30 different MPUA on once CD... that sounds like a win-win to me

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60 YEARS OF CHALLENGE.

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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

Since many guys on the chat we're telling me that speed seduction must be the best thing I could read, I now have both Speed seduction and Pandora's box to read!

While Pandora's box seems to talk about women mentality and the different type of girls, Speed Seduction seems to offer some information about NLP, pattern, fractioning and much more (Many too complex for me).

Can anyone tell me what 60 years of challenge mostly talk about?

Thank you!

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

dude...bad choice...bad choice...bad choice...


SS + Pandora's box...add MM and your brain will definitely explode from meantal masturbation. Although SS and Pandora's box should be enough too.

if your goal is to "step up your game"-you need to understand what part of it you need to step up, and for what purpose. and then choose the right program for you.

I wish somebody had told me something like that about 4 years ago. Reading too much can keep you from acting. Acting+learning is what makes you good.

I recommend you Get the girl-Mehow
Revelations-Lovedrop
Mystery method-Mystery
Lovesystems Routines Manual
Revelations are a MUST.. And in Get the girl you have a lot of examples and routines written too.. Mystery method is great to understand the concept of pick up and to understand how women`s mind works.. And lovesytems routines manual- you have all possible openers, routines and kiss closes, also a great book.

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Best insight i get from 21 convention, Adam Lyons (2010), you can find it on the youtube. It's good...