Trying this out tomorrow night anybody have any tips or things to look out for?

Also what is the best time to use it, in the middle of the night or near the end?

This is gonna be fun.

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The best way to initiate kino, is...

step 1) Take your hand
step 2) Place hand on girl
step 3) ?????
step 4) PROFIT
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Explain please.

http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... se-opener/

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The best way to initiate kino, is...

step 1) Take your hand
step 2) Place hand on girl
step 3) ?????
step 4) PROFIT
-Pumpington

Well thats some opener! I remember AFC adam saying in a recent lecture might have been pua summit? That when girls leave there friends in a club it's because they are looking for someone to open them and more than likely looking for a one night stand etc. It could work, would show a hell of a lot of balls. I might give this a go.

The apocalypse is like a community legend, mostly due to Cyrian exagerrating quite the bit in his essay. It isn't scary whatsoever. It's a simple hey I want to take you home in a pale face. Nothing women haven't heard a million times before.

always at night, depending on what time your area like to go out. my college starts drinking at around 9 or 10pm so the perfect time for me to drop that line is about 12 or 1am. basically, 3 hours after everyone goes out is what alot of people recommend. dont do it so late because it would look desperate and you might get slapped. but dont do it too early because you look like a loser/asshole/AFC and you WILL get slapped.

good luck

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The Apocalypse Opener.

I hope you enjoy that as much as I did.

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It sounds good....but I think you would have to be quick and smart with the comebacks cuz I can see alot of females reacting differently than what that article explains lol


Guy: Hey there
Girl: Hi
Guy: What are you doing later?
Girl: Oh I dont know..
Guy: Do you want to come home with me?
Girl: *instantly* I dont even know you...or "uhh..NO!"...you get the idea

I havent tried it...but I dont see too many females just standing there in awe that you just asked them right off the bat if they want to come home with you..especially if its only the 2nd question you asked lol...I dont know tho

That's why I made the thread,I knew it wasn't going to be as straightforward as what Ciaran wrote.

I'm going to a football match tonight in the city,we might be going out after it or there might just be a party in the hotel,if we're going out I'm definatley using it atleast twice.

I hope we're going out

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The best way to initiate kino, is...

step 1) Take your hand
step 2) Place hand on girl
step 3) ?????
step 4) PROFIT
-Pumpington

well, go out...and try it a few times, and let us know how it goes..good luck my dude!!


And for any experienced PUA's....that have tried this...let us know here. Ciaran's blog post just seemed like he was trying too hard to sell something, which is forming doubt in his excellent story.

The problem with asking a girl to go home with you is that social programming / ASD kicks in and a lot of girls that MIGHT have to say "no" to avoid looking like a slut.

This is why I prefer his "Shock and Awe" technique shock-and-awe-technique-by-ciaran-not-a-vt84634.html

The essence is Direct, Playful and Sexual, 3 important qualities that will skyrocket your results if you integrate them into your game correctly. The underlying frame "What. The. Fuck. You are WAY too hot to just be standing there looking like THAT. I literally can't resist coming over here and escalating on you. It's YOUR FAULT you're doing this to me!"

I have used this kind of frame in my direct interactions and it works VERY well.

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Ok i tried it last night. First of all this girl was not a stranger per say but we had never spoke before. I went to a friends party before and this girl was one of her friends from home and from Essex (just thought i would put that in there haha). We where in the club and i wasn't with her or her mates and she was on her own. We had never made eye contact before this moment.. I walked up to her and this is what happened.

Me: Hay you ok?
Her: Yeah good thanks, you?
Me: Yeah good thanks. Do you want to come back to mine after?

Ok at this point i waited but it didn't take long for her reply she wasn't shocked by any means, she just said.

Her: Ah i have to go home in the morning and don't really know this city but i have the spare room at our friends if you want to stay round hers.
Me: Ok
Her: Do you want to go get a drink?
Me: (with a cheeky smile on my face) If your buying?
Her: (stopped for a second) Er ok i can buy you a drink.
We went and got two double vodka red bulls and two shots i just said i would get what she was having.

Right first of all i had very good social proof because the girls at the house love me and she could see that at the party. She was a HB9 and my mates where saying she was very sexy before at the party. She was getting chatted up by all the guys at the party before... I was extremely drunk and wouldn't have done it sober. Also no one at her home city would find out about it so she didn't have the risk of being called a slag etc. Finally i never slept with her i think i even left her after she brought me a drink because i saw a girl i have been trying to get on and slept round hers instead. By the way this is the only time i have ever tried it i don't expect it to work much but the situation was perfect i guess.

I tried it once for fun, the party was coming to an end and I was bored. I had no problem saying that, I do extreme and unusual things all the time.....the girl was shocked and after a couple of seconds of silence, she refused. No probs.

I'm definitely going to try it some more in the middleof some party so I can see if the girls will later come to me or not...

Well...if you went with the girl you opened on....it sounds like you would have smashed that ass......so in essence, the Apocalypse Opener worked for you..

I have tried it a few times two years ago, and I failed . I can remember the smile when I opened one of them, and the bad reaction when I said "wanna go home with me?"

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