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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:59 am 
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Im a rather overweight guy, and lately ive been wondering,

how important is weight? I'm 95 kgs, 1.82m tall. and although I do okay in most circumstances, some girls I just cant seem to get to. Is it because im overweight?

I realize that muscle mass also counts, and I'm rather well built, however I still cant shake the feeling that my weight is a major factor.

I have a good personality, and am always well groomed, however I just seem to be lacking in some circumstances.

Anybody else with experience or tips?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:32 am 
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Ron Jeremy's existence says that weight is not a problem. Nor is looks.

They matter, sure, but nowhere near as much as looks matter to guys. For chicks, it's more 80% personality/confidence/value and 20% looks. Guys is almost flip-flopped.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:40 am 
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I use to think that looks mattered the most...to some girls, it may...But those are the ones that struggle to be happy. lol But looks don't really matter as much as we make ourselves believe....I mean, as long as you actually care about yourself. Girls tend to not be as attracted to guys that don't care about themselves. But as the others said, its about YOU....not your looks. If YOU can get those juices flowing...you're in.


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If weight is important to you, don't eat.

The only way you are going to be fat is if you eat.

You want to get laid, ask this forum. You want to look good when you get laid, DON'T EAT. It's that simple. 6 words for success. Do it, do it, do it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:30 am 
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dont tell people not to eat lol

thats not how you lose weight...thats how you get sick and develop more psychological and physical issues..If you're fat, and not happy...eat healthy and exercise. thats the only way to lose weight. gotta burn more calories than you're taking in...and you gotta make sure the calories you're taking in are from healthy foods.


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Pretty much what Moto said...

Addendum: Diet alone will drop pounds, but ask yourself... Do you want to be 200 lbs of fat or 200 lbs of muscle? What would look better? To get *lean* (read: not skinny) you NEED to work out in addition to eating more carefully. (500 calorie/day deficit is a very good target)

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I'll tell you why they do matter, ever look through a womens magazine, notice no fat guys modeling the clothes or in any of the articles. They matter. Not as much as they do to guys, that's true. But if you're hot, (I've been told I'm very good looking by almost every girl I've slept with, but can't see it myself) everything in life is much easier.

Looks don't matter to most guys as much as they pretend either. I see normal looking guys compromising all the time and sleeping with chubby, even fat chicks, ugly chicks, you name it. Because they're horny. Same with chicks.

So think to yourself, what's going to be easier, working hard to lose weight and not working as hard to pick up, or not working hard to lose weight and working hard to pick up.

BTW CHICKS FUCK RON JEREMY FOR MONEY. He's famous as shit now so he can probably pick up now, but if he was just some fat bloke he wouldn't have shagged all those porn stars. Don't delude yourself.

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it is the same to them as it is to you, being ugly or fat, is a turn off, just like it is a turn off to you, girls are the same as guys, just even more picky and they have asd on top of that, after years of social conditioning, they sometimes will go with guys that are somewhat uglier, do to it being ''socially acceptable'' more then others, because that guy was able to defeat her asd and make her feel less like a slut (he took more responsibility for the hookup then others, and declared his clear intent so that she could resist and not look bad *like a slut* the less it is her fault the better)

looks, social value, emotional impact, sexuality, right time right place, money,

it all matters, differently to different people, just like some guys love fat girls, and find skinny girls disgusting, there is a universal appeal in most cultures, be as close to that universal appeal as possible, and it will become a breeze, when you look like brad pitt, girls game you, when you look like ron jeremy, you game girls and get rejected, the guys telling you looks don't matter, are the guys who just finished reading MM and have this it's 20% looks and 80% personality shit going on, and can't think for themselves, that is just to give guys more confidence to go out and actually approach women, and not just give up because they are ugly, the more ugly you are the more you have to approach, and the tighter your game has to be (game to me is simply your ability to escalate and handle asd), once you can do 30+ approaches a day, and escalate without anxiety, you are fine, no matter how ugly you are you will be getting laid,

make sense?

don't expect to be pulling hotties left right an center if you are out of shape and dressed poorly, even if you are a social wizard, you have to be at least average looking, to consistantly get better then average results, but personality accounts for alot (due to asd) once you figure out how to handle it and lead, you are a step ahead of guys who are slightly better looking then you, and I litterally mean slightly

but let me put it this way, if you stand on your head socially and are fucking amazing, and you are a 2/10 on looks, you are most likely not getting laid unless she is fucking desperate, you can still get a few flaky phone numbers here and there, but when you got some real value behind you, girls will be calling you instead of rejecting you, a 10/10 seriously needs no game, and can be socially retarded and he will at least get to sleep with 6's, while a 4/10 needs confidence and a ton of game, and he can sleep with 6's, thats about the equivelent of what I have seen anyways

hit the gym, and work on your confidence, you need alot of confidence if you want to be doing this on the regular, start opening sets and hanging in there until they either leave or tell you to, even if they stop talking to you, just enjoy the silence and hang in there, experiment with all types of methods and stuff, MM is really complicated if you are starting out, probably 60 years of challenge makes it really easy and simple to start, that or some direct methods that make it fun and simple *see shock and awe, or the appocolypse opener, or GM style*

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All I can say is....I'm not in shape lol...but I havnt pulled any ugly girls...the lowest probably being a 7......For a while it blew my mind, because if you were to ask me a year or 2 ago..what I saw myself as...I would have said a 2 or 3 lol I couldn't see what the fuck any of those girls saw....But I mean...the girls I've been with....to the girls that I've turned down...proved to me that I am much higher on the scale than I lead myself to believe. None of the girls have been fat or ugly. And I'm talking both the girls that I have been with, and the girls that I've rejected.....So really, it doesnt matter. Yes, good looks can help you. On the other hand, good looks will only get you so far, and if you havnt realized that, you will one day. But in the same, if you actually bring something to the table, a lot of girls tend to look past your physical appearance without second guessing because of the way you tap their feelings and emotions, which in return sends their attraction thru the roof....And thats what it is.

Good looks can cause attraction, yes....but the moment the girl sees past that, if you don't have anything underneath, she's giving you the boot..

Also, I don't kno about you guys....But some of the hottest women I've ever seen have been with the ugliest and/or fattest dudes....and I can't speak for all of them, but I know at least few where money wasn't a factor either.


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Different people get turned off with different things. Some girls are turned off by looks, their job, overweight guys, short guys, etc. But the fact that you mentioned your weight means that it's bothering you, so why not do something about it.


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Two months ago I had the exact same stats as you...today I am about 91kgs...and want to be down to 74kgs...

I've been going through this causality loop myself....started making myself thing that I was fine being a little over weight...then I started getting laid and realized that the reason I was over weight was far deeper than just being fat...

You will find no science, no statistics, no nothing that will tell you this but please take my word as a fellow man out on the hunt for pussy...

It matters. It's just not about looks, its about how you treat yourself and many other things...I am fat because I am a lazy fuck who used to eat a bunch because I never got laid and felt bad for myself...Now I got some pussy and realize I need to loose weight to have better sex and be more attractive all the way around...

Left to my own vice i probably would have ended up at 150+ Kgs...

Look, if your asking, you know the answer deep down. Do yourself a major favor and address this issue. You have to do it for yourself tho...waking up in the morning, and doing work to get fit is hard, it takes everything you have...You have to do it for yourself, and if your asking on a forum, you might not be there yet...

I'm not completely convinced myself, but I try, that's all we can ask for ourselves...

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When you make a certain issue a problem, it is a problem.
I have no issues with my big feet so it's not a problem.
I can't kook a thing but it isn't an issue so it's not a problem.

I'm not saying you should not attempt to lose weight (for your health alone it would help) but if you were to say to yourself you can pull hotties even slightly overweight you probably can, if your gamingskill is up bar that is.


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Looks and weight does not matter!

Fix the inner game issue...


however if you start working out and what not there at possitive side affects....


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Looks and weight does not matter!
Don't matter at all? Really?

Mate there is inner game and there is delusion. Some girls will fuck a fat dude, some girls will fuck an ugly dude. Most won't unless the guy has remarkably good game, fame, money etc. and is lucky, and many won't no matter how tight his game or other credentials are.

And either way, who's going to have an easier time picking up, the male model or the fat dude in a tshirt that doesn't fit with bad glasses and an overbite.

Don't be a dumbass.

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If you are well groomed, dressed well and in good shape pickup will be much easier mainly because you will receive many more IOIs from women. This will make it easier to choose the ones you want to approach- some may even open you. At the very least optimize what you have - dress attractively for your body type and always keep well groomed.


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