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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:29 pm 
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So I was wondering, what would be the best way to get around being short and pickking up women. I'am a staggering........ 5'7 inches and feel some what intimidated by women who are my height or taller....Fortunately, I'am pretty muscular so that gives me more confidence around women. But height always seems to be a pretty strong factor when it comes to male attractiveness and women.

what do you guys think about it? Is it really that big of a deal? or is it all in my head?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 pm 
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Well think about this, a study showed that women's risk for cancer was directly related to their heights. The taller a woman, the greater the risk.
"In the shortest group, 7.8 of every 1,000 women developed some form of cancer (a 0.8% risk)...women of average height (5’3") developed cancer at a rate of 8.7 per 1,000 (a 0.9% risk)...and for those in the tallest group ( 5’9" and over), the number was 10.2 per 1,000 (a 1% risk)."
THEY are more intimidated by their height than you, so you should worry about helping them with it. It's natural to be scared of bigger things but what do you have to worry about? its not like she's gunna eat you or anything lol

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It's a big deal, and it's also in your head.

No doubt that physical appearance is important, but it's not everything.

Now, there's nothing you can do about your height, so you can either embrace it and go for it, or not.

Also, remember that this is a number's game. If you approach 1000 women, at least 10 or more will like you no matter how tall or short you are (10 is a very low number).

Just work on your game, and forget about the things you have no control over. :)

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That's actually a good height.
I stand at 5'3 but I don't let it get in the way.

There are a lot of guys shorter than you. :D


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Just tell yourself it's not your actual height that counts in bed. It's the height down there.


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Dude, 5'7" isn't bad at all.. there are some really good puas who were shorter. I'm not sure if were allowed to mention names, but he wrote a book about the world of puas.


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The more it bothers you the more it matters. I'm not just going to say "it's all in your head" because I don't honestly believe that to be the case.

Some people DO make fun of short guys, some girls DO get put off by men being too short, you are right to think 'maybe my height has a negative affect on the way that I am perceived by others' because truth be told, it does.

But let me ask you this, why are you concerning yourself with something you have absolutely no power over?

Do you think that the more you dwell on this perceived shortcoming (pardon the pun) the taller you will grow?

Every man has his own insecurities he needs to overcome if he wants to reach his full potential, you might think that height is a special consideration but really it is no different to any other perceived flaw such as a big nose or a little dick.

What you need to come to terms with, is that this insecurity is 10 times more counter-productive to your game than a few inches of height ever was.

You are wasting precious energy concerning yourself with something that you can't change and improve on, when you could be using that energy to improve the areas of your game/life you actually do have power over. You are holding back from your full potential.

You're a short man. Accept it. "Embrace it" find a way to work with it and don't ever let yourself use it as an excuse for not being the best man that you can be.

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I've gone out with a "short" friend of mine a couple times. One thing that happens 90% of the time is the girl he is talking to will at some point in the night ask to compare her height with his. I am 6'4" and I am pretty sure that every girl that I have tried to pick up has commented on my height in some way.

So I would assume that height is pretty important to woman, however what they are into (tall or short) depends on each girl. My short buddy gets more pussy than the LA animal shelter. So hes doing alright lol


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DUDE! please ignore the people saying "It's important to women, but you can overcome it by not thinking about it"

Take my advice
"It's not important. Women think it's important, but trust me they don't know. Only you need overcome it, because you want to feel your best."

How do I know this?
Because I'm 5'6, man. At the beginning (im 19 now, started trying to get women at 17) I felt SHIT about m y height. I was afc, but had many girl friends. They ALWAYS told me "Haha you n eed to go for a short girl :P" or "I wouldn't date him, he's shorter than me"

I agreed with them and for years (all through school, since year 7) felt terrible about myself and believed I need to find "The One" because that's the only chance I have. Then I finished school, and fucking never saw those girls again.

Here comes a big bragging story, but i think it's necessary to lift your mindset.

Fast forward to today. From being a short kid who was one of the only guys to not have kissed a girl in final year at school, I've slept with more girls than any guy friend I know. All of those girls (except one petite asian) have been taller than me, because I like tall girls. My current girlfriend is about 5'9 and she thinks I'm the sexiest guy there is. I encourage her to wear high heels because I think they're the hottest piece of female clothing.

Do you know what 9/10 of those girls have told me? What they have literally told me? "You're an exception"
"I didn't used to like short guys" etc.

The reason WHY short guys can't pickup as much and why I feel so sorry for them, is because it's got nothing to do with looks and height, it's got to do with confidence and presence. Us dudes have been misinformed by fucking shit stereotypes lol.

The truth is, once you seduce a woman - looks don't matter. She's thinking about your dick - the rest of your body is a background.
The trick is to make the girl completely comfortable around you, so that she allows herself to be seduced. I'm not going to go into how to seduce a girl, because that's all over this forum and takes practice. But for now, you need to focus on knowing that height ISN'T an issue like you think once YOU get over it.
Because to make a girl feel comfortable, you need to be in control of the situation, and to do that you must first be completely comfortable with yourself.

I don't know how to get you to feel better about your height, but to me it came by getting girls. And it took me a long time. But trust me, once you're feeling good about it, you will feel unbelievable. Because you will think "Okay at this point I've slept with x amount of girls. That's more than most of my friends. And I'm short. And I've still managed to beat the odds. What amazing seduction skills I must have!" = massive boost.
As I was going out and meeting girls, my height insecurity slowly went away. But it was when I came to the epiphany that I was suddenly good with women that my height issue completely vanished.
For the time being, don't worry about the fact that you're insecure. Everyone is insecure. Last week I was insecure about losing my girl because of stuff that happened in the relationship. Just try get out there and be the best you can be :)

Once you've reached a certain point and you look back, youll realise that you have beaten the make-believe "odds" and feel like an absolute champ.
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Some girls, probably about one percent won't date short guys at all. A lot say they wont, but VERY few simply won't do it. To put it into perspective of how few that is, I still haven't met any.

But those few can get fucked.

Consider this: For the small percentage of girls who will not date a short guy, there is an equally small percentage who have a short-guy fetish. That's actually a real stat.

Keep that in mind


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The truth is, once you seduce a woman - looks don't matter. She's thinking about your dick - the rest of your body is a background.
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Sure physical apperance matters but it does not make it impossible to succeed. This is the same as with does look matter. Yes, but not that much.

You feel intimidated by tall women? And feel more confident because you got muscles? Cone on, you arent gonna wrestle them. You are exactly as tall as you need to be, you go all the way down to the ground and that is as much as anybody can ask for.

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Do you know what 9/10 of those girls have told me? What they have literally told me? "You're an exception"
"I didn't used to like short guys" etc.
Guess what you are. Most short guys like your self won't go for taller girls, as most short guys lack the confidence to and aren't secure enough in their looks to game taller girls. And even if they are most find they are fighting a up hill battle to boot as society says girls should date taller guys. I agree there is no reason why society should dictate that, tho have to say I do like it as I am tall.
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The reason WHY short guys can't pickup as much and why I feel so sorry for them, is because it's got nothing to do with looks and height, it's got to do with confidence and presence. Us dudes have been misinformed by fucking shit stereotypes lol.

The truth is, once you seduce a woman - looks don't matter. She's thinking about your dick - the rest of your body is a background.
Sorry but looks DO matter. Saying other wise is to say first impressions don't matter. Looks are not everything but they matter never the less. Your height is only part of how you look, but so are things like your body language your clothes, etc.
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The trick is to make the girl completely comfortable around you, so that she allows herself to be seduced.
I would more say its more about displaying confidence in your self and walking "tall" than making her comfortable. Making a girl comfortable isn't going to get her attracted in you. Displaying confidence will.
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Some girls, probably about one percent won't date short guys at all. A lot say they wont, but VERY few simply won't do it. To put it into perspective of how few that is, I still haven't met any.

But those few can get fucked.

Consider this: For the small percentage of girls who will not date a short guy, there is an equally small percentage who have a short-guy fetish. That's actually a real stat.

Keep that in mind
Trust me its way more than 1%. At the very least its 10% if not more. I can't tell you how many girls I have talked to that said they won't date a guy shorter than them no matter what. Some have said they will date a guy of equal height but not shorter than then.


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Trust me its way more than 1%. At the very least its 10% if not more. I can't tell you how many girls I have talked to that said they won't date a guy shorter than them no matter what. Some have said they will date a guy of equal height but not shorter than then.
I don't know if that quoted properly, because I seem to have issues with quoting on this forum lol.
But yeah, I totally believe you. In fact, I'd say that 30% of women at LEAST say they will no matter what happens never date a shorter guy. And I know this because I'm short and used to cop it allllll the time. And also, I can't remember one girl at school saying
"I would date a shorter guy". Every single one told me I should go for short women because it's a prerequisite for a guy to be taller etc.

You know what? That includes most of the girls I've been with too.
So what does that tell you?
Women listen to society and judge being the smaller one in the relationship as the only way lol - but in truth, without even knowing it until given the opportunity, they don't care.
Like I said, I've approached a lot of girls, even while being in a relationship now just because it gives me a good feeling to attract women. The vast majority of girls that I interact with give me strong IOI's, such as introducing themselves, usually touching a bit if I'm kinoing also, and asking more about me.
There is a small number of girls who don't give me a chance at all and ignore the fact that I've started a conversation - but it's a completely mixed demographic of girls who are shorter and taller than me. Those girls are the ones with a problem lol.

I strongly agree that girls, at least 30% say they would never date a short guy no matter what. I'm telling you though, once approached very few will hold to that belief.
I also strongly agree with the correction you made about walking "tall" and displaying confidence, I missed that one. Building comfort, is however equally essential if you want to fuck a girl in the same night you met her.


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Did you know that 83.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot to try and prove a point?

I don't think that fooling yourself into believing that looks don't matter is really the answer here because on some level you will always know otherwise.

In my humble opinion, acceptance and progression has always worked better than deniability... yes life has dealt me a shit hand, yes I am not as genetically gifted as many of the men around me BUT I am not going to let that stop me from living a full and adventurous life and I am certainly not going to sit around feeling sorry for myself.

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