| I have to say something on this here.
As a reforming "NICE GUY" I had to learn the hard way about how women react towards men. The simplest answer to avoid this NICE GUY SYNDROME is to think LIKE A MAN. Not the cookie cutter pretty boys they push on TV and Movies that women claim they want.
The truth is, women have no clue what they want in men. Their thought conflict with their biological needs. They say they want a guy to hear their problems but get excited about the jerk that ignores them.
an ALPHA MALE is the goal here. Your replacing her father as the protector and family provider in her life. Think about Ur own dad for example, was he weak or did he take charge?
Be the man they need and not the man they want. When meeting a woman challenge her emotions to spark interest. Prove your a man by holding on to your ideals and goals. When you number close, I recommend 2-3 days to call or text her but do so with an inside joke. For example when you met maybe you gave her a nickname or busted on her for something she said. Recall that joke as if you picked up where U left off. Go right into a date on this call/text because the FZ must be avoided. Show your a man with interest in having sex with her.
During the date TAKE CHARGE. Plan the date out in advance with locations to bounce off to. If its dinner, then go to a park with music playing or bet U can kick her ass in billiards. Touch her casually first till she comfortable (KINO). Most responses to Ur touches the better. Get a kiss within 1-3 dates. If she likes everything for a kiss close then your on your way to sex or a girlfriend.
Practice on as many people as possible to be playful and challenging on conversation. Once it become natural you will see women become more attracted to you as a "GOOD GUY" instead of "NICE GUY".
Avoid being an asshole. NEGS and shit are offensive to women. Some out there would say NEG but personally Insulting a woman U dont know is just stupid. Be a challenge and learn to master HER EMOTIONS.
Hope that helps.
[quote="SouthOfTheBay"]Hey All,
After a long relationship (4 1/2yrs), and having my self-esteem and confidence completely destroyed from this (for# of reasons) I have had no luck with women. Well, at least not attractive ones... Sometimes it just makes me so sad what I have to settle for, at times I just rather use my hand...
I think I'm a nice guy... Right before this last relationship I was a complete asshole, I was taking down chicks left and right (hot ones), and I got with the last one because I was a complete dick to her. But after years I lost touch of that.
So I'm starting to believe that women have a 6th sense for a guy that's desperate(I can't help it, having a pretty girl around me 24/7 for years, then just complete loneliness..). I guess my brain can't help but NEED attention from some attractive girl. And the thing is, if I do start talking to one, I feel maybe they sense that in me? Even if I try my hardest to avoid giving that vibe.
There is one girl I met that I hit it off with her great, the night I got her # she was falling for me. But once we got to talking, I seem to have become nothing but a pen-pal.
Another(which was sooo hot), went on a couple dates with her, she seemed to be really into me always complementing my appearance and saying I impressed her. But in the end I busted out with this Mr. nice guy move and said "can I kiss you?” After that it was over... saw her once more and it was just a waste of time.
Now the most recent girl: She was working drive-thru, she said I have nice eyes, got her # so on. We would talk about psychology or some random shit. Then for some reason she started talking to me like I'm her therapist. Eventually I told her she was going out with me to the movies. We did, had a good time. She said we have great chemistry, and she feels she can tell me anything. So, I tell this to an uncle of mine and he says, "What the fuck are you doing? Simpin? You’re being a straight nice guy! I wouldn't take a girl to the movies unless I knew I was going to fuck". He then advised me to call her and tell her what she really wants to do, what her intentions are. So after several days I call her and very assertively tell her what is she wants. She says that the day before she had returned to a dude she was with before, but she wasn't happy about it, she said she did it out of... ego? and that she would much have rather been with me if I would have asked her before, but she doesn't want to hurt this guys feelings. So what do I do? I haven't talked to her since last night when she told me to text her but I just decided to not waste my time. I really want this girl... and she obviously knows that, but I feel as if dude is probably the asshole and I'm the nice guy (shoulder homie). She said she won’t last with him. But IDK, what the fuck am I? Plan b?
How can I change my situation? I try to act confident, but I feel my low self-esteem having nice guy leaks out into my exterior persona. How can I change feeling like I need a girl in my life? Can women really sense this in me? My self-esteem? True level of confidence? Desperation? How can I honestly in my heart feel like I don't give a fuck about a girl?
I know I probably sound like the biggest-softest AFC, I accept that. I need some advice guys, help me change. I’m tired of being nice.[/quote]
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