Okay so I'm new to this whole thing.
I have a girlfriend so I won't be excersising many of these techniques, but I was wondering...

If you guys are so good at getting girls, how do you go about keeping them?
(I.e, keeping them intrested, making them want you more, etc, etc.)

I love my girl and things are cool with her but I would help me to be more relaxed and a lot more easy-going if she acted a bit more clingy to me and a bit more head-over-heels in love with me.

Some of you guys will probably hate it when a girl is like that but at the end of the day, it makes you feel a million times more secure.

Let me know what you recon.

Cheers guys!

Well my friend you have stumbled upon the Paradox that will probably forever trap PUA's.

The better you get at getting girls, the worst at relationships you get, the PUA way isint the really a good place to learn how to get good at "long term Relationships"

But ill try to give you some advice, hope it helps:

1. Start by having alot of sex with her, sex release chemicals that make a girl more bonded with you, and the more sex you have with a girl, she useally tends towards sticking around that guy, even if she dosent really like that guy for any real good reason.

2. Calibrate to her intrest and love for you, if shese not being clingly then try to be also, make sure your not getting on her nerves

3. Make her feel special, things that dont work good in PUA sets, work great in relationships, say things like, "you look really pretty" "I really enjoy being around you, your a special girl"...and bullshit like that, girls love that when there in a relationships.
Also make sure she understands that shese yours, shese bonded with "you"
show this by just deciding randomly to start making out with her at odd times, or just grab her ass or boobs at odd times, and almost laugh about it. You do this because you can, and it shows that your exercting that you have the ability to do this and other guys cant, and your the only one that can do this when you want cuz shese your girlfriend.

Let me know how it goes, hope this helps

Cheers man, I hear where you're coming from.

I guess I already do a lot of number 3, I compliment her (trying not to over do it) and all that. I was just worried that it was the wrong move because it makes her feel comfortable. I've recently been trying to lay off all that to get her to make some effort.

Tell me what you mean by number 2? You say I have to calibrate or match her. So if she shows a certain amount of love/affection, I show the same amount back? I guess that's a good idea. It would mean I show a lot less affection though... and I guess I enjoy giving it. :oops:

Ahh well, cheers mate.

If anyone else has got any advice that would be great.

Things with her are great, but I just want to keep her intrested, make it a bit more fun etc, that kinda thing really cements us.

Well it sounds like shese already into you and all that. #2 was more for a newer relationship so you dont scare the girl away, but i dont think you need to worry about that

The general rule of thumb is, what ever makes you a good pick up artist makes you bad at relationships, and what ever makes you bad at being a PUA makes you good at relationships. So being a AFC with a LTR (Long Term Relationsihp) actually kind of works

Its the paradox of being a PUA,when your good at relationships you suck at attracting girls, and when your good at attracting girls you suck at relationships lol

Well thanks a lot mate.

Really appreciate the help, that's shed a lot of light on things.

Maybe I'm over thinking it? Maybe it's okay for me to just relax and take it easy. I guess things will be a lot easier if I'm not stressing over them. :L

ya definilty, i mean once your into a LTR you really dont need to worry about the game and stuff, you can just be yourself and relax.

Sarging a girl is hard, one little mistake will ruin a set, but thats in the beginning, once you get a good relationship going, its alot more stable and it takes alot to ruine it. And then you can just have fun and relx and not need to worry about all the PUA routines and tactics

Future's bright. :)

Cant agree with tenacity sorry. Some of the principles of PUA work, and have to exist in order to maintain a good relantioship and keep things fresh. You should pay a visit to the relantioship thread and see what some of the guys are writing to see if afc work.

Afc may work only on the first 4 months, or so, then it will fail. Or it works if the girl is ugly she knows is a ugly and wont find anyone better than you, its probably the only time the girl settles.


If your girl is HB and have options(guys going after her) then this is for you.

First - Only give compliments when you truly think she is deserves. It’s like Pavlov experiment never heard go Google it, and you will see why I’m telling you this. Or for example you guys go to a party and see is really hot, tell her this. Don’t be a loser and everyday tell her she is beautiful it can work on first 3 months but then is game over. And important dont compliment only her looks, specially on your girlfriend. THIS HUGE. its good to boost, but even the hottest girl on the planet is insecure, and sometimes her beauty is what make her insecure you feeling me?

Second – Fuck her good, which means you should read some of sex material is out there. And talk this about with her, some girls are close minded about sex, so talk with her, be interested in what she likes. Experiment spontaneous on bed.

Third - You will not be manipulated by her crying, yelling, sexual withdrawal, jealousy plotlines, shit tests, be rational here, DON’T show any emotion when she is doing any of this, don’t lose calm nothing, this is important.

Four – It really nice being together every day but, this kills the relationship trust me, so I hope you have an hobby if not start one. Don’t spend every day with her, and a lot of guys alienated their friends, they only go out with their girlfriend, don’t be that guy, encourage her to go with her friends also. And some time to time mix the group together

Fifth- Don’t leave PUA it’s a must in relationship why?. Push and Pull works like a charm so learn to do this. Interesting also works, you don’t know how important that you are accepted by her friends, and maybe one of them being attracted, believe me it will make your G/f want more.

Six- Again from time to time reward her(if she is being nice) with something romantic, a romantic dinner, a hotel getaway on another town near you, something spontaneous, and a surprise.

Seven- Only tell her sorry; when you know you are wrong. Not to stop and argument or a fight, THIS IS HUGE.

Eight – Be hard to get… when you talk with a girl about feelings don’t be rational be irrational. Keep her always guessing.

Nine – This remind a friend of mine that accidently told his girlfriend I love you on the first three weeks, don’t be like him. Let her say first and then only then if you truly believe it.

Ten- She is not your world. So don’t let her become this, all girls want to be the world of the man, that what challenges them, to mean something but when they feel they have that power on your world, its bye bye time. A lot of the guys you see coming here and including me once a upon a time, its because of this. BE ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. Girls are not rational like man,they are more emotional so they respond to things like uncertatiy , jealousy, indiference, missing you. this is what you shall try that she feels for you

Eleven- You are the man so you decide, almost everything or make her decide but you give the options of course this is not so linear, like the way I’m telling this I hope you get the picture.

Twelve- if you guys “breakup” or have a fight or a break, and you know you have absolutely reason, and she is the one who is wrong. Don’t contact her, don’t late night calls while drunk. Let her come to you, of course a women wont blatantly say “im sorry can we try again” , she will make an excuse to talk to you, Don’t be too easy forgiving her maybe the first times but then, she will respect you in the morning.

Thirteen- Don’t put much empathize of what she is telling you things like “ you are the best boyfriend I ever had”, “ I don’t want to lose you are the man of my life”, remember this may be true at that moment but what is true today, maybe is not true tomorrow, she can be saying this 6 months for now to another guy. So don’t empathize so much on her words more on her actions.


Fourteen- Who has the power of the relantioship is the one who care less.

Good Luck and Be Happy Bro

Thanks for that Snake, this is exactly what I was looking for!