[b]1. How do I verbally and physically escalate with the girl on a day 2 in a shopping mall complex?????????? (I want to get the first kiss before i take her back to mine)

- also, once i've gotten the first kiss, should i start directing her back to my place? plus, what sorta shit should i talk about to keep it funny and light????

2. If i'm using props back at my place like playing guitar or something corny like that .. and she laughingly asks "is this what you do for all girls?".. whats a good funny way to retort this one without looking guilty of it????????

- how do i avoid doing corny shit that looks like i've done it for other girls too??? What are some good things to do back at my place before i get the girl into bed????

3. How do i get girls to want a day 3 after i've had sex with them on the day 2??????? (it seems that most of these girls i meet in clubs just want to meet up and fuck and then piss off)

4. If the girl realises that you have nothing left to talk about and it gets all awkward, what's a good way to save the situation without losing her respect and her thinking "really, is that all you've got?"????????

5. What is the best place to take girls from a club on a day 2 without making it appear as a booty call?????

6. How do i avoid coming off as too chatty and nervous when these awkward lulls in the conversation happen???? What sort of things can i do to make it all run smoothly????[/b]
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Below is anecdote about an embarrassing day 2 that i went on with this girl from a club - i wrote it after she went home. it left me a bit confused and with a few questions that i have tried to outline above (hopefully this should flesh it out a bit more).. i would really appreciate your feedback and thoughts.[/i]


I now know that when I meet a girl from a club she’s pretty well dtf – it makes fucking sense to me.. I can’t believe I hadn’t seen it all along.. I mean seriously all a person at a club wants is some short term action (for now). But I don’t just want to tell them to come over and fuck when the day 2 comes. I feel as though I’m not doing them justice, or that I haven’t really earned it yet if I just jump into that, plus.. i’m much more turned on when there’s a bit of humour and romance involved. I took this girl out that I met at a club, to a shopping mall.. wanted to show her a good time. It was all going well.. a few lulls in conversation but we pulled through.. she held her end quite well. A bit of flirting and touching. Then we got some dinner.. ate it in a park.. was quite good.. it started lagging in conversation.. I’d drawn a few blanks and it was sorta just like lets go back to mine and put this rubbish away. The conversation was all over the palce.. coz I was too nervous in the beginning I’d prematurely blown all the good topics and gotten shit responses which I was relying on. Plus I hadn’t yet kissed her or gotten really good body contact with her yet – which I see as a big part of the problem. Then when we got there it was just fucking awkward because I didn’t do enough groundwork before I transitioned into it. We went through all my usual shit where I show her stuff (fall back options like guitar)… she asked me “is this what you do to all the girls you get over?” I have done it to the last two so I was a little caught off guard lol. What do you say when they ask that? then when I had nothing "innocent" left to do or talk about at my place I totally broke down in front of her.. it was just like “so… ….. … um… …. … *fucking awkward silence*”all I could think of was the fact that she could see right through thinking really? Is that all you’ve got?.. haha would have looked so fucking pathetic.. she’s like so you probably need to study don’t you.. look if you need me to go just let me know.. I’m thinking FML.. the kiss of death haha.. I was just lost for words.. she’s like maybe I should go.. and here I am just in agony.. “mmm…… … yeah… .. .. um…” is basically all I could say… couldn’t even look at her. This sort of thing has never fucking happened before. I completely lost control of the situation, giving it to her. Haha I have honestly never felt so emasculated in my life. She's about to go and finally, a miracle happens.. she relieves me of what I thought was about to be my slow painful death.. and she cuts me a break and leads.. she says but I might need a "powernap" before I go. Obviously, she didn’t come all this way to go back empty handed. So sex it was. Fairly ordinary as it was purely sex.. and she no longer really respected me I don’t think. She used me for sex lol.. how fucking emasculating. I mean besides my break down I actually liked this girl, she was kind of cute and had a good sense of humour and we got along. I was just too nervous and didn’t escalate enough in the beginning? Obviously, this girl would have no other purpose for me now other than to be her little sex bitch seeing as I wasn’t man enough to lead her in the first place - but probably wouldn't even make the trip for that.

I just need a good consistent way to escalate to the first kiss with a girl on a day 2 (how could I have done it with this girl on day 2 at the shopping mall complex?)..?? this keeps sort of happening.. and the kiss usually ends up at the last minute.. without transition from verbal escalation making it really sudden and a bit of a surprise for the girl I think. I mean it shows the girl that I’ve been thinking about I all along but haven’t had the courage to do it. Most of the time they’ll just say screw it.. let’s do it anyway.. but that’s when they decide that they’ll probably never see me again.. if I didn’t lead them enough.. they’ll decide it was just a fuck.