Is it a good idea to use direct day game in university?

I'm wondering because I've been told that college game is based primarily on social-circle game, and with direct day game, there's always a high chance you'll run into her again, and an even higher chance with failed approaches you'll gain a label of being "that guy".

What do you guys think? I'm also just starting more into direct game, especially direct day game, so the failed attempts in learning are kind of a given; how will this affect the social-circles factor?

I'm pretty curious about this myself. I'm fairly new to this, and I've been doing mostly the bar/party scene, but not meeting many that I'd actually want to call the next day, so I've been looking more in to day game.

I remember reading someone's theory about campuses being social circle game a while back, but I think it really depends. I didn't start going back to college until I was 20-21 (I'm 23 now.)I've never lived in the dorms, eaten in the big mess halls, or joined the clubs. (I work too, so no time for that stuff.) So, on campus, I'm a stranger, except to a select group of friends, and people I've sat by in the past.

School feels more like a job to me than a way of life, so I tend to view it as a company with 7,000 employees, none of whom HR is going to mind me sleeping with. I think it has advantages and disadvantages. My school is really strict on forcing kids into the dorms until they're 21, so when I discuss it with people, they're always surprised, like I'm some sort of exotic breed. Plus having your own apartment on a campus like that is a DHV in and of itself.

Anyhow, I'd love to hear what you've found out about this vestrideus. I've seen the direct day game stuff up, and wondered if that was such a good idea. Campus isn't a night club, but it's not a city street in the shopping district either. It's kinda half way in between. Personally, I've been trying to just strike up fun conversations with people I happen to be by for one reason or another - in line at the school store, sitting next to before a class begins, sitting next to in a lab, etc.

It depends really on what kind of school you go to. Mark Redman would say it doesn't matter what school you go to, but that is just bullshit. If you go to a state school with 20,000 people, it's a lot different than going to a private liberal arts college with 1000 kids.

For example, my school has 1600 people and no frats. The only cliques are the sports teams, which are essentially like the frats that you can't get into because you actually have to be good at the sport. Students are not allowed to live off campus, so most (all) parties are dorm parties (and all the parties are congregated in one area). People here are super rich so you can always find free alcohol from the sports teams.

At my school, after sophomore year nobody really gives a shit about your "social value" anymore, at least not nearly as much as you think. There are also two all girls schools next to our school . For me, I'm seeing multiple girls right now and they've all been cold approaches, either at parties, or in the cafeteria, or at the library, class, clubs, etc. The girls I'm seeing right now have few mutual friends with me (and I want to keep it that way).

What I'm saying is that social circle game does work, but it really depends on your situation. I'm guessing Braddock and Mark Redman both went to huge state school where the frats dominated the social structure. If that's your situation, then follow their pattern. But always to willing to adapt and improvise.

My stance is this: you can always do cold approach. Just don't always go direct. My cold approaches have always been just me trying to be friendly and meeting people. That's it. Don't use openers, don't go direct. They can't hate you for being friendly, can they?

That said, I also do direct daygame, at another school. There's a state school 5 minutes away (I live next to 4 other colleges, lucky me). I do direct daygame there to keep my state up. It can be weird because I have run into the same girls again (even though there's 30,000 people there). Obviously it doesn't matter for me because I don't go there, but I would be careful with direct daygame at a university. There is a risk of being "that guy".

My favorite approach is something I'd like to call "social cold approach". It's a cold approach, but you're just trying to be friendly. You're not there to "pick up" anyone. You're there to make friends. You can be flirty, but don't run game. There's a difference. Gaming is wicked. Girls can sense that you're trying to get something from them. It's weird. No routines, no phase-shifting, none of that PUA garbage.

Just be flirty. Be fun. Tease her, make dumb jokes. Girls don't have a problem flirting. It's fun, they enjoy it. Only when there is undoubtedly, I repeat, undoubtedly, amounts of attraction between you two can you start to get her (not picking up here- no routines).

This is different from traditional game in the following ways:
1) You cannot assume attraction. You must have undeniable evidence that she likes you before you proceed to game her. Otherwise you risk being "that guy".
2) There can be no routines.
3) You're not there to pick up anyone. You're trying to make friends with people, who happen to be good looking girls. If they don't like you (sexually), at least you made a new friend. No one turns down a new friend.

My one addendum is this: the hottest girls usually have their own cliques. This is true even at my small school. You do need to run social circle game on them, or at least have very high social proof. I'm talking about the 9's and 10's (on a legit scale, not stupid PUA standards where a 7 is average). Personally though, I'm fine with 7's and 8's, whom are very receptive to cold approaches. And I like social circle game just because I like meeting new people. But I would NEVER create a huge social circle just to get girls. Way too much work.

Ironically though, I'm seeing one of the hottest girls on campus right now, and I met her at the cafeteria through cold approach. But she's an oddball. Usually really hot girls will need more than cold approaching.

I actually walked around Univ of Central Fl during the day to work on my day game. IT IS EASY! So easy! When walking around, I'd approach by being direct, that's the only way when everybody is walking in different directions. It's simple.

I say "excuse me." Study the body language, and guess her personality. If she is bright and bubbly, ask her for directions. If she seems to love herself too much and think she owns half of the school, then use a night game opener and continue the interaction like it's night game.


I'll give you two very different people I number closed the other day while walking through campus:

1.
N: Excuse me
HB: yes? (ok she is smiling there is something bubbly about her voice)
N: I don't go here, am I am lost as shit, I have literally done at least 4 circles around here and that's not including the circles I made before I started counting. (If she is the bubbly type she will laugh.)
HB: Where do you need to go?
N: Rec center to meet a friend
HB: oh the gym?
N: No I said the rec center (laughs)
HB: Oh well I call it the gym, anyways its...directions...
N: No, that's not going to work. I wasn't listening to you. And don't bother telling me again because I won't listen. You should just show me.
HB; I can't I have to go meet friends
N: What if I get lost in an alley way and get taken advantage of? Willingly or unwillingly? (laughs)
HB: Fine {then she walks really fast}
N: slow down, why are you running? Slow down to a human pace... How much coke are you on? (laughs)
HB. ok

blah blah blah small talk with a ton of IOIs. She pretty much asked me about me the entire time, I deflected and she told me about herself.

She starts walking fast again.

N: Hey you junkie, you are running again. {I grab her hand} This is for your own good, I am going to train you to walk how normal human beings walk.

blah blah blah more IOIs. We get to the rec center.

N: Wow, we just had a connection. It so magnetic I can't seem to let go of your hand. Looks like you are waiting with me until my friend gets here.
HB: I really have to go
N: You owe me, how about a kiss? (we kiss, I let go of her hand.) That was such a let down the magnetism is gone.
HB: Hey! that's not nice.
N: in all seriousness you need to see me again.

I take down her number. It's so freakin simple!

2. (this is the mean girl)
And I am tired of typing so I'll do a run through. Said excuse me, then I asked her what she thought of my pants. anyways, run the night game. Time constraint. Get her seating. Make her forget she has things to do. Leave, turn around ask her how you'll see each other again. Number. Done


Also, idk if you are interested, I did some research while I was there about body language. I have given it to a lot of people to read with some pretty good feedback.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=5

This should definitely also help you out.

Day game in college is hard to pull off. Because if you are a beginner you will be cold approaching random women. And in all honesty you are probably going to get rejected. Then if those women see you again in a party, they are going to tell their friends that you hit on them in the park and that you are a creep.

It might be a better idea to just talk with women. Without the pressure of trying to sleep with them or impress them. You could trying asking them questions, like what's your name? Where are you from? Do you like it there? What's your major? Why did you choose that major? What classes do you have? Etc.

It all starts with the word hi and some positive body language. Make sure you look clean and shave your face, brush your hair, don't have zits.

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Fantastic post and your article was great too

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