Warning this might be long.

As I said I am not completely new to the PU world I've studied swinggcat and I wasn't a fan, because I didn't like the aspect of acting wierd and using canned lines. I then studied Rob Judge a little bit but no real results.

About me I'm 17 so still in grade school, would consider myself fairly good looking but I have never ever had a girlfriend and I have only hooked up with girls like three times and I was hammered and they wernt that particularly attractive, my friends made fun of me about this particularly girl that was no doubt beaten with the ugly stick in the womb, still gives me shivers thinking about her. I have never had a problem talking to women or even hitting on them although it has never quite ended with a happy ending.

The most recent crush I had that I attempted to get with was this hot brunnete at me school, at first I thought all was going well we were definitely flirting and lots of seemingly harmless kino. But then all of a sudden something happened, it was obvious from the start that I liked her and I know she liked me back, but as quickly as she began to warm up to me she just began to go cold I merely put my arm around her in a friendly way as I said something and she almost snapped "don't touch me" I had touched her more flirtaciously like that before and she gave a positive reaction. She later told a friend of mine that I was creepy I could have sworn I did nothing creepy but her distaste to me consisted until now where it's just awkward and we smile politely and have friendly chats when were in a group of pepole never 1 on 1. What the fuck went wrong, women hurt my brain.

I know this will sound like 100 coming of age comedies you have seen before but I'm in my last yr of school as of next year and I have to lose my virginity before I finish school and although I know many a plain girl who would gladly go out with me. I want someone hot that I like and that my friends won't laugh at me for.

So there you have it help a brother out. What am I to do?

What is it you said?

Remember-just because something doesnt "feel natural" doesnt mean you shouldnt try it. if your not having any luck at the moment try canned material- if it works then great, if it doesnt then ditch it.

with canned material sometimes its better to put your own personal touch to it though, then it might come across as more natural.

I said something along the lines of "hey, whats up" haha nothing too important.
I tried a bit of canned material when I studied swinggcat, personally for me it felt unnatural and conversations got awkward quickly as I ran out of lines. For me it just doesn't work. I prefer to go natural

start talking to hot girls more if you want hot girls, and turn them on

hit on them, don't be needy

You need to ignore your friends who laugh at you and don't bother about in what year you lose your virginity. You can't focuss on the girls when you are thinking too much about other stuff. Besides, in ten years nobody cares at what age and with which girl. It only seems important when you're 17.

On to my fellow newbie-advice. The girl said you were creepy. Girls limitlessly tell other girls about creepy boys. Quickest way to stop the rumour is just ask her: "Name, i heard I gave you the wrong impression. I would like to apologize. I didn't mean to touch you in a way you are uncomfortable with". Apologizing after creeping somebody out shows you're an adult. Plus she will tell other girls.

Since the girls you might want to date are probably not very experienced, I suggest you just practise flirting with women you don't meet in school until you feel comfortable doing it without alcohol.

It's important that you remain totally calm when you get that sort of response from a girl. Don't be apologetic; don't get annoyed. You weren't to know the way she was thinking.

Don't let that incident put you off. You need to be a bit slicker by the sounds of things. Don't be scared to ask a girl out in a shorter time frame in future. Too many men wait and wait and eventually the interest wanes. You need to show hot girls that you're confident all the time.

Solid responses, what natural pua do you suggest I look into

I gonna be straight here: If your social value at a school is mediocre or low you can forget it. Schools are THE places where social value is at it's most important. You can't pass it, not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, never. Hot chicks will only go with the cool dudes. Period.

HOWEVER

This changes once you quit school as from then you start from zero again. You're a blank page. I don't know where you live (urban, suburban or countryside) but when you live in a place large enough, nothing's lost once you've finished school. Prepare yourself for that day and be ready to be at your upbest by then.

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make the game fit you and your personality no the other way around start with david d double your dating, and some 60.... Follow chief, and wrapped mindless they got good stuff too... With that being said there is a pua that teaches college game, i will see if i can find his stuff give me a few, apply it to high school very similar...
here:
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My social standing is fairly high while not quite a king of the playground I would say I'm reasonably popular, however I have a sort of goofy friendly personality as opposed to a dominating one. Which is great for making friends but could be my downfall with women

Yeah dude that sucks bigtime. I know a guy like you, always friendly, ready to help, in for a chat. But he can't score a single girl. Yet everybody loves him (even the girls) but only as a good friend. It sucks.

Start by acting less goofy (keep the positive vibe) and dare to say no.

unimportant, the importance of dominating personality is to demonstrate high status, if you are allready high value, then you have the proof, if you have the proof, girls will allready be trying to get your attention (approach invites, or talking to you), if they are talking to you and assume you are high value, they will easily give compliance, if you have high compliance, you can get sexual and build tesnsion with little to no resistance,

in short, start talking to more girls, more hot girls, hit on them, don't worry about systems, if you are at school, network, network, network, when girls are after your attention, and it is valueable, then you can build compliance and tension, if you are low value, then you can do the same but will gain less compliance that is where skill comes in,

just HIT ON GIRLS, try to isolate them, make them horny, make out, and have sex, ATTEMPT, TRY, DO,

sitting there going how do I do this will not help, girls, especially HS girls, are nieve and have no idea what they want yet, they have some idea, but usually just focus on, ''the cool guy'' or ''the good looking guy'' or ''the smart guy'' , be one of the guys who excells at something, I suggest you be the, ''GUY THAT FUCKS EVERYONE''

also in reguards to your personality, just don't allow girls to talk down to you, insult you, or use you for entertainment or material posesions, that is really all that is important hold a strong opinion that is seperate from theirs, do not agree with them for the sake of pleasing them, it is more productive to dis-agree with them, for the sake of persuading them (not just dis-agreeing all the time for no reason, only when you actually dis-agree), have your own opinions, if a girl is being rude, attack her ego, not her as a person, simply, state an opinion of dis-like, so that if she likes you and wants your approval, she will reshape the behavior,

her: I never kiss guys unless they blah blah blah
you: that is too bad, I like open minded girls that would be open to something like that


her:Im to sexy for you
you:Right, if that is what you have tell yourself to sleep at night


her:haha you adore me, im too good for you
you:look, im not saying you're not adorable, but I like girls who make make me laugh, no girl has ever made me adore her.

focus less on the whole, I have to be an asshole thing, and focus more on the, I have to be sexual and gain compliance thing,

also don't worry about friend zone, friend zone is a myth, it is just a category guys get placed into that can not escalate, or give to much compliance, girls lose respect/interest for you, because they think you are not sexual, or sexually interested in them, just be a more sexual person
GOOD LUCK