So let me start this post by saying I started exploring Pick-up 4 years ago I have walked the fringes of the community, read some books, tried a lot of things. But this is my first exploration into online, forums, e-books etc. My experience so far has been amazing. My first questions were answered with excellent advice and I am kicking myself for holding out so long. So I just wanted to say thank you!

I am looking at this post as part seeking advice, and part poll.

So a majority of women I have met the past year are single moms. This was a new thing to me and was at first terrifying, but I realized opening myself up and exploring new things is the best option, and why I got interested in this lifestyle to begin with.

However, I have approached the whole attraction process as stand offish when it comes to the kids. When I met a single mom I would say that "the relationship is about you and I. We are going to have fun, and explore each other, and IF things ever got more serious, THEN we will involve your child." I found that this kept things relaxed, removed any premature expectations of being the new daddy. And sub consciously kept most of the relationships in a fun, non threatening, non serious manner. And most importantly I never walked into a kid's life, confused them with my intentions, then disappeared. And so far, none of those relationships have evolved to that level, although most of them are still on going.

The advice seeking part of this post started with an LDR that has a kid, and in our phone conversations we have started talking about her son a little more. Our relationship has improved drastically now that we can talk about her son, his growing up etc.

So on one hand, by following my initial game plan I have had great success. But in this one situation I can see the benefits of an involvement, albeit small because I have NO desire to step in as dad.

I thought I would send this out to the forum and hear experiences, opinions, and especially any time proven method on the best way to face this.

Let's be honest gentlemen. All of us are going to see this eventually

Thanks

Diesel