So this is now the 4th girl that this has happened to.

1. girl starts randomly giving me attention (ie. 'poking" me on facebook, "liking" all my statuses)

2. I start talking to the girl, but often just play it cool and dont really care

3. girl starts texting me more and more, and if i ignore her shell continue to message/text me till i respond.

4. me and the girl go out to a club or party usually with a group of friends

5. i am friendly but do my own thing, talk to other girls, and just have a good time on my own

6. girl starts acting really insecure and tries to play me by either dancing with other guys

7. the next day, it is usually over. ive had girls go on facebook and write
"worst night ever" 5 min after me dropping her off lol


Btw, these girls are all 8+ and they always are the ones who make first contact.

however, either they get bored once they have my attention, or they get turned off and it never progresses to a 2nd date

ps. the girls are SUPER flirty and confident thru texts and fb chat, however in person, their timid, standoffish and just awkward


your thoughts?

Had this with one too recently. I'm interested what others say about it.

try once or twice just getting them over to your house to watch a movie, instead of going somewhere that other guys can move in on them, either that or when you got out with them start actually trying to sleep with them instead of ignoring them,

all that happens is you say, hey lets watch a movie at my house, ill make some food for us

they either say, sure, sounds good,

or no, thanks (insert excuse)

if excuse you just say, ok, lets go clubbing instead (or something else just suggest something you want to do), and when out actually try to get something accomplished

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take,

(reguarding the flirty texts etc.) to her it is most likely she thinks she is making it obvious that she likes you and wants to just have some dignity that you made the moves, and she put up a little fight, but i assume you are not making the moves and she is getting irritated and trying to make you jealous so you do something, and then you don't, and then she gets pissed

other case she is just searching for validation either for herself or for her friends, so she can say, HEY LOOK BECKY, THIS GUY WANTS MY VAG ALL UP AROUND HIM, BUT NUUU UHHHHH IM TOO GOOD FOR THAT, and then she just feels better about herself and loved

girls will allways forgive advances, but will never forgive pussies

Looks like you fuck up around step 5.

So the girl talks to you a ton online/over the phone, you go out, then show her little to no attention? That's WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.
Once you're out, the game is on. You are kino escalating, chatting her up, sexualizing conversation, and attempting to fuck her at the end of the night. That's it. The girl doesn't just "get insecure," she gets pissed that she did everything but say verbatim "if you do things right you'll get laid after this." But you take the pickup concept of freezing out and use it at the worst possible time. So stop doing that, and start actually gaming the girl when you go out.

DJ_Z is on the money.

Mate, these girls want to fuck you. And they are making it as easy and as obvious for you as they possibly can. They are getting upset because by not making a move on them after they made it so obvious, you are essentially rejecting them.

Your problem is that you're not escalating. You need to be focussing on getting these girls alone with you and then having sex with them.

Playing it cool is not want you want to be doing here.