Okay guys, I've created a monster. LEGIT. One of my HBs has started using the SAME lines that I use to maintain the "I'm the prize" mentality in the relationship.

[end of a conversation]
Saroza: "Okay, I've got to get to class now, maybe you'll get to see me later."
HB: "MAYBE, you'll get to see ME, if you're lucky."
Saroza: "You know what, nvm. I won't be talking to you later "
HB: "Fine by me "

She now does this with EVERY conversation. In effect, she is a PUA nightmare.

Yes the easy thing is to cut her out of the rotation (which I have) and get a new girl (which I have). But I'd still like to know...

How do you respond to this situation?
What do you say in return?
I'm stuck, it's like trying to game myself!

you are reacting, control the frame,
becomming aggressive, or defensive, is reacting, just respond or ignore,

Saroza: "You know what, nvm. I won't be talking to you later "
HB: "Fine by me "

(AGGRESSIVELY REACTING)

there are tons of ways you could have gone

Saroza: "Okay, I've got to get to class now, maybe you'll get to see me later."
HB: "MAYBE, you'll get to see ME, if you're lucky."
Saroza: ''you're funny'' or ''minus 10 points'' or ''what do you mean'' or ''you better bring me coffee if you want me to forget about this you little bag of farts and sunshine'' it is pretty irrelivant what you say or do as long as you control the frame and dont react

It looks to me like she was being playful, then you blew her off and she blew you off. Seems like she had a pretty normal reaction. Just let it go.

Ha ha, I love that girl!

It is pretty awesome! I mean you showed her something that she liked so much that she has started copying what you did. How is this not a compliment?

Plus, I love converting my HBs to PUA monsters, that will help them sort out the losers from whoever approaches them. Leave her better than you find her they say... Well this is it. Make sure her next lay is better than or equal to you. By teaching her something cool, you have brought her into your world.

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bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

This reaction from her could simply be another shit test she's throwing to see if you'll panic. She already knows you have the lead in the relationship, but she may want to see if you still got some game left. So, she challenges you by using the same kind of lines you use. You know she probably doesn't have any game, it's simply confidence.

Always show you are in control by not letting simple things like this throw you off.

When she said:

HB: "MAYBE, you'll get to see ME, if you're lucky."

You could have simply stopped the conversation. This kind of reaction can drive a woman crazy, cause if she likes you, she may automatically think stuff like:

-Wait, should I have said that?
-Was I out of line?
-Why isn't he responding?
-blah blah blah...

Next time, she'd think about it twice before doing it.

Don't just have the "I'm the prize mentality", but BELIEVE it.

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she ain't a monster, she is shit testing... Bansario is right, she knows you have the upper right she is trying to level...If you already have her in the rotation, why are you doing this again? Calibrate....She is already in the rotation according to you, the game you are doing is the wrong one at this stage..Let her win, if she wants to..

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Very good comment! Just be sure that she somehow sense that you are LETTING her win... Just a hint or a shadow of a doubt, thats all it takes.

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Here is how I would handle her.

Saroza: "Okay, I've got to get to class now, maybe you'll get to see me later."
HB: "MAYBE, you'll get to see ME, if you're lucky."
Saroza: "You know what, nvm. I won't be talking to you later "
HB: "Fine by me "


Me: I got class now, I'll see you later
HB: Alright, see you too
Me: Done with class, where is your beautiful self at?
HB: I'm at x bla bla bla

That already eliminates all bullshit, she's going to respond based on how I respond. Even though it's impossible, let's see how I would respond if she responded to me like that.

Me: Okay, I've got to get to class now, maybe you'll get to see me later.
HB: MAYBE, you'll get to see ME, if you're lucky.
Me: I just wanted to see you again because you're cute.
HB: (blushes on the other side of the phone knowing that something is different this time but continues to test you) Yes I know I'm very cute and you can't stand me.
Me: Oh ok, I was just thinking about doing some things to you because you get me horny at times
HB: (thinking oh my fucking god, he's acting really different now, should I take him seriously this time?) Uhmmm you're kidding right?
Me: Why would I be kidding.
HB: Because you can't just say something like that.
Me: I can and I'm just being honest. Come to place x after class, I want to see you later.
HB: (possibility that right now she is overwhelmed by sexual tension and gets serious, but hopefully she won't see it like that) You're creepy and weird.
Me: Oh ok

Case closed.

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A "Monster"?

Come on, isn't such a girl the dream?

Let's face it, we want women who are a challenge to us, who keep us on your toes and who never let us get complacent with the attraction process when it comes to them. They are constantly on the improve, and as a result so are we.

In short, they become better and smarter, and in turn drive us to the same results.

So, take this is an opportunity to have fun and make her understand that two can play a game like this. If she's being a tease, you be a tease right back. If she's being kind, so do you.

The aim of this is NOT to tame her or anything, it is to have a fun, good time. And trust me, smarter women are so much better than the ones we can easily get. The chase seems so much worth, with a prize like this.

Good luck.

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No offense man, but that seems pretty AFC and then transitions to creepy. First off you're putting her way high on the pedestal, unless shes an uggo and and you got higher social value, its prolly not gonna work and thats coming from first hand experience. Plus building sexual tension over texting is rarely a go-to method (I consider text game one of my stronger suits), and is more than probable to end you on the creep scale. (I'm not sure if you were admitting that or what?)


I think OP's original conversation is not NEARLY as bad as its seems at face value. One of the most HARDCORE alpha traits is just being able to say 'lol seeya' and walk away. drives girls nuts. him saying 'guess I wont see you later' is basically saying 'I got bigger fish to fry if you're not on my line', props to OP for keeping a tough frame.

Nope. All that pedestal stuff is bullshit. I been there and heard all this bullshit before. It's not about being alpha bullshit, AFC, or anything like that. AFC doesn't exist. It's all about escalating and not dicking around trying to keep a tough frame. What a joke guys. And creepy is GOOD! I LOVE creeping the fuck out of girls! Why? Because it builds sexual tension bro. When a girl says you're creepy, she's just trying to bait you into breaking rapport with her to eliminate sexual tension, don't be stupid. They love being creeped on. You HAVE to risk creepy. Her reaction doesn't mean shit.

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I agree with you, the problem is the new school of risk creepy, they do not know how to do it right, i do build sexual tension through texting,and encourage you to do it too, but nothing like that sample. but not coming across creepy at all, the risk creepy, is bad, because most of them doing wrong, in this case this guy did not need to go in pua mode, let her win or whatever, SINCE SHE IS ALREADY IN THE ROTATION... Who cares as long as he can get laid later, by getting laid, you can take back control easily...Remember guys after the 3rd time you sleep with the same girl, women are wired, as long as sex in not completely horrible to get attach...

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look at what the fuck you are saying to her: "Okay, I've got to get to class now, maybe you'll get to see me later." thats some bullshit! she knows exactly that you actually want to see her, so she gives you bullshit back.
lets say you want to buy condoms from the shop and you´re about to pay for them and a call comes in you need to answer. do you say "hold on a minute, i gotta speak on the phone, maybe youll get to sell me those condoms later" to the cashier? no, thats some indirect bullshit! you say "wait a minute, gotta answe this call, im gonna buy those condoms later and if i cant, ill buy them from the shop over the street". the cashier knows what you up to, the girl knows what you up to, dont give them bullshit.

Hey guys, just wanted to thank you guys for the input.

I'll take your advice and "let her win" a few, and see how it goes.

Smh. Here is what risking creepy is all about from 60 years of challenge material which basically owns everything else out there.

Risk Creepy
Eww, he wrote me a note, that is so creepy. Aww, he wrote me a note, that is so sweet!
Practice Creepy
Guys don’t get enough practice being seductive.
They have tons of practice being social and opening “sets” but not much practice being
seductive.
If you want to be seductive you need to risk creepy. In fact, there is no way to avoid
creepy. So you might as well admit it right now. You are creepy. But don’t worry, the so
called “creepy” guys also get laid the most.
Don’t Fear Creepy
Using seductive eye contact, looking at her lips while thinking about kissing her, and
talking really slow can put women into a sexual trance.
But women will try to scare guys off their seductive game with the threat of the “creepy”
label or the “eww you’re creepy” look. And guys will never be at their seductive best if
they are still scared of creepy.
Eww or Aww
The threat of creepy is a bunch of crap.
Creepy is just a TEST women use to scare clueless guys off.
If she likes you, you are sexy. If she doesn’t like you or she feels you are not in her
league, then you are creepy. This can change day to day or even moment to
moment. You can use the exact same eye-contact and touch on two separate girls and
one will call you creepy, the other will think you are sexy. Which is the truth?
Neither.
Realize if a woman gives you that “you’re weird” look when you shut up and hold eye
contact, it really just means she is trying to break the tension because she is getting
turned on.
The implication that you are creepy can also be due to her not wanting to seem like a
slut. She is turned on, but she’s pretending she isn’t. She may even tell her friends later
that you were hitting on her and it was creepy, but that’s only to protect her social
image.

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