I'm fine with opening, I can neg the target and be centre of attention for the group she is in, tell stories, get them involved.
From there is it acceptable to say something like 'I feel bad for ignoring your friend, mind if I borrow her for a second?'
Or should I just go straight into kino with everyone in the group, target included?
I might be mixing up two schools and making things a little complicated but so far I have been reading into the mystery school most of all.
Also, pulling the target away, is it advisable to make up a reason on why you pulled her away? Something along the lines of energy, she is pretty, I like her smile, something like that? Or use an opener on her?

Probably a dumb question, forgive me I'm new.

let me know if going for MM truly works well for you and makes you happy, I´d really like to know coz i think in the long run it wont make you.

K.

You sound like you are about to sell me some alternative school of thought.

nope, but if you want long term success with MM and not struggle with anything, i reckon you aint getting there with MM.

MM is good for beginners but at one point you're going to have to engage in a more prolonged conversation and not use so much canned material. What I do is when I'm in a conversation, I might throw in one or two lines MAX, but that's it. Use MM if you need but try to be as natural as possible

More prolonged conversation like during the daytime? Or just generally if you are going for harder to get girls?
Give me advice of other schools to look into or even just PDF's, I'm all ears. Or eyes, should I say.

This is the problem with MM, and I forget who it was who first said it to me:

Mystery Method is actually very complicated, yet it is marketed to rookies.

It makes you think too much, about every little thing. Every word, every subtle movement has to be analyzed. The system can work, but it really isn't a good way to start.

As for your question, since you don't need a bunch of guys just saying you're completely fucking up, if you are already talking to the girl all you need is an opportunity to get her away from her group. It can be going to dance "oh, i love this song, lets dance!" It can be running a routine where you bet a drink like the 5 Lies Game. Once you get her away, you don't have to complement her. If she specifically asks why you are talking to her, as opposed to every other girl at the bar, you'll get different opinions on how to respond. MM would suggest something mysterious like she has a really good energy, but it all sounds kinda silly to me. If she asked me that, I would just say "you're fuckin adorable, I just had to start talking to you."

I agree with your point about needing to be as natural as possible. Short and simple responses are definitely the way to go too otherwise there's a tendency to rabble on and bore the target :-/

This is just based on personal reflections, although I am not really a master PUA. I guess in club game it is different since the noise prevents you from talking. Don't ask me advice on club game because thats my weakest part.

Day game is very mellow so you have more time to build attraction, the same goes for bars and chillout places. I try not to kino escalate too much in these scenarios and just keep conversations interesting and make sure you listen to the girl

Thats my only advice. You're welcome to disagree

What, so you just fluff talk, light kino then number close? In the daytime I mean.

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