My game was a bit off but it was my first confrontation of a girl ever, I started with hi and my name and i asked her if she had chem lab she said no and i said well i actually dont care if you had chem lab or not i just thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you. My kino was low i know that but i am still getting over my fear of women which is total bullshit. So from then on i started conversation using some of Chief's middle techniques asking questions that let me find out what kind of girl she was. It worked fairly well. I still have a long way to go though. So it progressed for a while and i followed the using arm motions to produce kino, while trying to add sexual tension which i kept talking. Soon i settled down a bit and started stopping the conversation and staring into her eyes deeply. She reinitiated. I had 2 IOI's and it came up that people she likes. I did the palm reading technique and bullshitted the results. Made her giggle a lot. There was my last IOI i needed. i asked if she liked me, she said yes, i said do you really want to be a part of this she said she could definitely deal with this. I increased kino held her hand, I got more IOI's went to initiate a kiss and she said too fast. WTF!!!!! I had kino all over the place, i had 4-5 IOI's, I had everything right. Maybe a bit inexperienced but there was sexual tension there. So supposedly she has never had a boyfriend, she has never had a kiss yet and she has done a shit load of gymnastics and had an awesome body. I did what i learned here but only ended up with a number close. Oh well she did say she wanted to see me again i may wait a few days though. If you have any suggestions that could help that would be greatly appreciated. My first confrontation and i got a number close. I guess for a first timer it wasn't bad.

You skipped a huge part in kino- you dont go from holding hands for a bit to a first kiss, you went from stage 3 to stage 8 in my view of how to do kino (yes i have numbered stages). Also #closing isn't something to be ashamed of, its the point of first interactions, I dont go for the kiss in the opening for a simple reason, give her something to look forward to. If you have sex the first night then your "used" to her now, and theres nothing special or new to do and she might leave you because you lost steam so quickly. Also do you know how to do the kiss? triangulate, what to say, how to go in for it? if you just rush a woman she'll LMR you as she did in this case.

Thank you so much for the feedback. Again it was my first so what were the stages that i skipped? If you could tell me that would be great thanks a lot.

isn't it obvious!? you don't keep kino her on the arms and palm, besides i feel you went in for the kiss way to early. you should've at least said "I'm really trying hard not to kiss you right now"...and even if she said "HEELLL NO " than you could say "i never said you could" just to punish her. but b4 doing all that, did you move your target to other places? remember u should take her hand n say like "follow me, let me introduce u to my friends", or "lets go n grab some drinks"..you will create comfort and a longer memory for her of you both. than stroke her hair n say " you've got pretty hair" then you can lean in and smell her hair n say " u also smell pretty "
her: Blah blah blah IOI
you: why am i so drawn to you? really explain it to me
her: bla bla bla bla IOI
you: will let me tell you something, you are undoubtedly a very beautiful girl, but beauty is very common. there are 3 things that i look in women and those are:
1..a great energy
2..a great sense of humor
3..and a great outlook
"but you got 2 out of 3 " just to tease her (you will DHV yourself by not wanting her for her looks but for her charisma)
BOOM you'll have her on her knees and begging for a kiss
when u lean in don't go straight for the lips, but for the hair smelling again, than come back n stare at her in the eyes, than kiss her on the cheek, back into her eyes, then for her neck, back into her eyes. then roll your eyes down and stare at her lips n get real close until your lips is about to touch hers, then go back again n give her a smile..you could go ahead n kiss her. But personally ill tease by taking her to introduce my friends...the anticipation will drive her nuts.
trust me

oh i almost forgot...when u lean in to kiss her, grab the back of her neck very gently, while you stoke her hair with your other hand..

Thank you so much i will definitely use this later on i realize all my holes now and i just got used to thinking i could do a kiss close in 10 min but im obviously not a mpua so that was a stupid thought. Thanks so much!!!

You CAN KClose in 10 mins, the point of kino is to the calibrated to each person, the more receiving they are of touching the faster you can go through the stages to the kiss (or more), if they dont like touching you have to stay on the lower levels longer, and build up to it, some of the time its not your fault they rejected your touch, they just originally dont like to be touched by anyone. If you wanna read up on kino and its stages this is what i use and it works perfectly for me http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/se ... 793#357793

So apparently it is possible i was just retarded and confronted a girl who was sitting alone in a chair at a table and i guess kino is hard to do in that situation. The entirety of the situation was against me so yea, i turned it into something that wasn't bad. I will keep reading posts and helpful advice. I will post any New conquests that i have done and await your humble criticism. I thank you again.

Good shit. That's great for your firs approach i'm still being a pussy and not approaching during the day even though when i go out later I do.

Just curious though.. You mentioned "Chiefs middle techniques" what is that? maybe post a link or a description..

thanks

Dude, great job. This is a success to build upon. You've gotten some good advice from the other replies. Now tighten up your game, and keep at it. She wants to kiss you, but she has to be in the right place, right time, right emotional state.

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