KristallNachte has a good point. numbers i know are impressive as a kid your age but if they arnt going to become anything more then a large contact list sadly its almost pointless, so little game is based on opening and getting the number rather then become close to women

look I understand that you are into game and you know your shit (most of it, although i dont like that fact that you refer to mystery method i personally think its out dated and i dont teach it for high school game myself, doesnt work as well) which i incourage but the reason people are skeptical is your age you are right. it isnt the number of years you have been in the game as much as your age, your natural maturity level. which isnt your fault, but i started gaming when i was your age and i remember having a mind set alot like yours, i know im still young too (19) and that im still not at the mind set and experience of the worlds best. but almost everyone on the forum has been 16, and they have grown and been through more in life at no matter what you say to back yourself up you just cant match what people have gone through, in game, as adults, in college and just in life. keep that in mind

as far as teaching that is something that you can do as you please, but personally going all the way through high school, or at least a few more years will give you a better out look on game, more girls as friends to learn from, or more girls you end up with.

thats what i say, and this is coming from someone who like you is helping the teen community a little more, due to the fact almost all pick up is for 21+ (although recent stuff can be used in teen game i guess)

get back to my pm, i wouldnt mind talking over SPAM


mR.e

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Didnt you say you closed 200 girls at the convention?? So where was your 'girlfriend' at the time, or is this the reason you didnt k-close.. im sure it is right? yes, it must be... no other possibility cos you wouldnt want to cheat on her now would you... just game another 200 girls, its all fine...

^ DONT try tell me im wrong again, look at the 1st page last comment...

And learning about seduction from books would need a high level of english reading skills, I mean come on David DeAngelo wouldnt write some MPUA techniques understandable to a 9 year old, maybe even let alone a 13 year old...
You said you complained about a girl to your dad, then your dad introduced you to game, which you told us you started at the age of 9...

^ Dont try tell me im wrong again, look at the 1st + 2nd page last comment...

Stop trying to bend the truth, and to be honest thinking about it now teen game is absolutely pointless, from the age of 17+ you NEED to get into adult game, and from the age of 16 and under all you need to do is go and ask a girl out... NO GAME REQUIRED

I say 17+ because i can get into some clubs without getting ID'ed and before i started i just got the head start before i turn 18 soon

This thread is nearly as entertaining as the story my 13 year old nephew told me about a couple of kids fucking in the bathroom during a "junior high school dance".

K: Do you know those kids?
Nephew: No

K: Did you see them?
N: No

K: Who told you?
N: Some guys.

K: Did they see them?
N: No, they heard from other guys.

K: LOL LOL . . . Did I tell you about the guys who had sex with alien chicks at a bar in Hawaii?
N: What? (thinking . . . ) No, but this is true! These kids "did it" in the bathroom!

Just a 13 year old being a 13 year old . . .

The OP is just a 16 year old being a 16 year old . . . it would be sad if he continues with the act as 25 year old but for now, it's cute . . .

Hey guys...

I find the attack on this poor kid in bad taste a little. Seems some exaggeration etc... but didnt we all at 16?

I think hats off... my thoughts on this...

1. I WISH my dad had emailed me DD stuff when I was a kid... it would have led me onto reading game books as it has for this lad & would have transformed my childhood at school from being a social retard to possibly having my first kiss before 18!
2. I wish I had a community of people that would have helped me develop my game in school. I think emotionally being good at game at school would do more for social development than learning game in the real world
3. At the age of 16 I probably would not have worded posts on a forum particularly well and would have got peoples backs up too.

**SUGGESTION - READ HOW TO WIN FRIENDS & INFLUENCE PEOPLE AND RE-WORD FUTURE POSTS**

I think starting a community, network, forum, group of people that can share their specific experiences and help each other improve in their current environment is a great idea.

Good luck with this... I wish you all the best. Take care with your wording on things in future and you will be less likely to get such a negative response

Cheers,

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I don't feel I'm attackin him, just telling him his spot in the community. As a kid he has more to learn before he is trying to teach others

Along with that, me and sharplin have been helping high school and teen community kids for quite a while, and both have graduated high school which isn't much of a game success as much as just more experience. If anything he should join the others that have been figuring out high school game, not claim that he is the best for it


mR.e

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Number closing is nothing in high school...
"I need to contact you so we can work on this project together. Can I have your number?"
"My fb chat is really laggy, lets text/aim instead."
"Yo text me today's hw...oh yeah I don't have your number."
done and done, no game necessary.

Sorry guys, I have not read every point on here... so mR.e I did not realise you were doing something like this already - that is awesome.

Utterly agreed he should join in with others already doing stuff like this.

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the truth is made to bend.

meeting girls=saying hi to them?

girls liking you=having them smile at you?

close=getting a phone number, or god forbid a make out?

Saint pixie, you sure are using alot of vague shit to justify your success.

makes you look shady, but even more like a big tool.

Besides, teen game, LOL.

at your age 15-16 girls start becoming experimental, they are fresh, not jaded by past asshole boyfriends, haven't developed the bitchy attitude to weed out the weak guys and are in general naive.

It's too easy dude. besides your teen years are NOTHING compared to your life as an adult. If we say you're a teen till you are 21, that gives you 11 years of being a teen (10-21, right) if you look at your adult life (21-75~) what you are doing now IS pointless.

Kids your age should evolve naturally, do stupid shit and learn from it.
Not read silly pick up artistry books on how to fuck women, messes you up in the head

So what is a 17 year old kid to do? I mean Ive had a girlfreind in the past (A girlfreind).But I dont have many (cool) freinds and girls seem to avoid me like the plauge (Except for the ones im not intrested in, and yes, I do see how that works) But Id like to be able to have a broader selection. I think I have made vast improvements over myself from 4 weeks ago. But It doesnt seem like enough.

Should I continue to go sarging? Or am I going to mess up my game becuase 16-17 year old girls dont behave the same as 21+ girls?

As a 17 year old kid, what do you guys think I should learn?

I think imma finish up Styles book "The Game" And Mystery's "How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed".

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Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
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Gr4p3,

Even 40 year old girls have a bit of the 16 year old in them. When you're older, you will figure this out. There is absolutely no discernible difference in game with various ages of girls.

The OP failed with "other" methods because he's incapable.(If he even tried at all) He can't convince an anonymous forum filled with gullible virgins that he's got anything going for him(lies or no lies), how do you expect him to run any sort of game on the field? This thread is a 16 year old's fantasy run amok.

As a 17 year old, you still have plenty of time to figure out your own game. Think "macro" instead of "micro". Don't worry over word for word routines or specific brand of game. Instead, try to figure out basic concepts. What do girls want/need? What are their fears? And what are the visible behaviors that demonstrate their wants/needs/fears? Figure out how various methods embrace girls' wants/needs and carve clean paths for girls to obtain their desires without threat. Figure out your goals and understand that girls' various reactions to your game is probably NOT your goal. Even 16 year olds will test you in their own little immature ways. (40 year olds will also test you in their own little immature ways)

So in the case of this thread, the OP's goals are probably to earn some respect in this community and possibly gain some headway as a PU guru/teacher. Look at what happened . . . he got caught up in number crunching details and failed to reach his goals. His goal shifted to proving that he gamed 200 girls in a month. This is a joke. In real life, a 16 year old girl calls him a dork and he goes, "I am not a dork, I am really, really, REALLY cool . . ." Then they just go back and forth going no where just as demonstrated in this thread. This is probably a hurdle that all young men will need to pass.

My problem, is that it seems everyone else has a girlfreind/ girls who like them.

I am without. I should be able to atleast attract girls. 200 girls a month would be sweet. But its not what Im looking for. I dont want a new girl every night. I dont have a sexual fantasy that I need to live out right now. I dont have marrige in mind yet. I Just want girls to like me, like some of the other guys in school. I wanna get invited to the "cool kids" parties. And In general I just wanna BE cool.

There is one kid in particular. Hes not extrodinarly muscular, infact I would say I have him "out-muccelled" (Sorry for the spelling bros). But girls are all over him, and he is basicly the biggest douche ever to them. Negs left and right, but without the playfullness of a neg. I cant wait for school to start again to see what This new found knowlage can do for me.

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Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
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Gr4p3,

Im in the exact same boat as you.. I see these guys in my grade who are complete douchebags, yet some of the hottest girls in my grade love them. My personal opinion is that that doesnt matter. who knows that the same guy who is a douchebag during school doesnt send them texts at night telling them how beautiful they are. its all image. he might just act like that during school, naturally, so that guys stay away from the girls hes with.

Ive had, and still do, have trouble with high school scenarios. I try too hard to work my way into a good group, and then i end up getting a worse reputation with girls for it. Ive been talking to mR.e, and hes been a huge help. he really knows high school game.

But as far as working on game, when school comes around, im just going to be more social with everyone... talk to people i havent, make conversation with girls, etc. in addition, im going to try to be more chill around everyone, and show more value and confidence, as i havent in the past.

im not sure what people think of doing the stylelife challenge as a 17 year old.

How are we as teens supposed to get 12 aproaches a night. 4 nights a week.

I mean maybe when school starts. But 12 diffrent aproaches a day, 4 days a week for a teen in the summer. Thats alot, am I right?

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Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
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Right people, just a reminder:
Flaming/insulting is not the same as criticising/questioning. Keep on the nice side of things.

@OP - As with all things getting into the profession is the hardest part. At the moment you have no reputation or credibility on the forum that I am aware of. This along with the fact you are young will cause people to doubt you a lot.
My point is shown in this thread I made a while back ( the-black-belt-secret-the-truth-the-pro ... light=belt ) - if you posted that I would almost bet you would receive much harsher criticism than I did - people will naturally believe "experts".

If you want to get into teaching you need to build up a reputation as someone who knows what they are talking about, far more of a reputation than most just due to your age.

Try posting some informative/discussion topics in the lounge (look at other posts there to get a general feel for it) and just try to raise your profile.

Madals.

p.s If any of your stuff requires payment, advertising it here is against the rules.

Well whatever these pther guys are saying I'M with you. Since I'm in high school too. Keep studying game man. I've had crazy success and it's not just number closes and kiss closes. I'm 15, upcoming junior, studying game for 7 months. Know a lottt about game habe all the books and put in time. I've f-closed and started dating a 20 year old 9.5 that I met on Myspace! Game will change your life, but what would realllly change your life is the alpha male books. Get carlos xuma's secrets of the alpha man or how to become an alpha male. My dad flew back from the marines to visit me and I told him I was a pua. Turns out he was too! And unfortunately he demonstrated by f closing a chick while in the same hotel room as me. anyways. Just don't listen to people discouraging teen game. For the older guys it's pretty intense depending your situation and skillset. And they're so easy, just have to be the alpha male.