Don't agree. For God sakes, the girl's been "going out" with the guy for 2 weeks. And if the girl is still looking, perhaps this tells you more about the guy than the girl. And what's with the "oneitis-phobia" on this forum? The OP thinks the girl is into him. I KNOW she's into him. Move on to what? This young man has no game.

So, you're asking the OP to move on from a situation where a girl is into him enough to push her number to him (and he seems to be attracted to her) to an absolute void where he needs to start up his "gaming career" from scratch?

He doesn't have one-itis, he has "NO-BALLS-itis".

OP, I gave you good advice and you're still sitting on your ass doing NOTHING. Doing something . . . anything in this case is better than doing nothing. SHE LIKES YOU. GO!!! Sooner or later, don't you think that you'll need to befriend and generate relationships with girls? I bet that you never imagined that you'll sit on your ass until age 40 have you? But think about this, you wait 1 more day doing nothing and you're just 1 more day into doing NOTHING. These 1 more days will add up . . .

She likes you. . . .so get yourself into a situation where the two of you can hang out and allow your feelings to be shared amongst one another. Forget the "Get her horny" part of my last advice. You don't have the tools to do this. Just go out and have fun. Go ahead and stumble for a kiss. Go ahead and stutter . . . go ahead and make a fool of yourself. There is NOTHING wrong with any of this. These things are what you'll think back on few years from now for a good laugh. One date won't magically transform you into a PUA but you surely won't get anywhere by continuing to ask questions you don't even understand.

There is nothing to confirm. In fact, you're not even qualified to question this advice.... because if you was...you'd be getting laid with this girl right now... A girl who practically offered herself up as a bonafide lay.

All these things are FACT and have already been stated by Kasabi - listen to this man.


There comes a point when a little bunny is lying on its side waiting to be slayed by the big bad wolf. And if that big bad wolf runs away that bunny is going to get up and go find a little border collie who at LEAST has the desire to slay it. Even, if it isn't what that little bunny really wants.

I'm going to make a prediction... All this advice is going to go on deaf ears. I KNOW it is. You're already in the friendship zone because you didn't step up to the mantle and there you will remain...

On a positive note, I hope you take with you the advice of this post and the one prior. I hope you realise you are NO WAY qualified to decide what you must and must not do. I hope you meet other girls in the future and put right your mistakes...because although you still have a second chance to at least awkwardly show her you DON'T have a vagina between your legs. I know you WON'T do anything about it.

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I agree with Kasabi on this one. even if she is some weird girl who's just messing around, its seems kinda obvious she's interested in something and likes you. your just gonna have to bite the bullet on this one, and step out of your comfort zone to escalate this before the ship has sailed. it sounds like you've still got some time left before she gets bored and all this moves into another direction. so go out, have some drinks with her or whatever, create some tension, and then pucker up those virgin lips and give her a kiss. then you'll know for sure whats up, from how she reacts. if she rolls with it, then cool, keep it up. if things take a turn for the worse, well then you know she's committed to her boyfriend and you don't need to waste your time anymore questioning what shes thinking, and you can move on.

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Username guy,

Stop . . .

You are clearly interested in this girl. If so, you owe it to your soul to give her an HONEST effort. This forum is filled with flakey PUA stereotypes. Yeah, there are situations where guys should consider detaching themselves from a depression black hole to go out to simply have fun. This isn't YOUR situation. Think about it. What kind of energy have you applied towards a possible relationship with this girl? I'm not talking about grading your "technique". I'm talking about EFFORT. . .because from what I can tell, it seems like zero.

Let me tell you what will happen if you follow the stock "Go out and game 1,000 girls now" advice at this point. Your girl will absolutely lose interest in you. It's one thing if you've GAMED her first, and she showed you disinterest . . . and then you gamed other girls. Perhaps then, she would tell her self, "Shit! I messed up . . . I gotta get him to ask me out again!" As of now, she showed you interest and every day you do nothing, you are showing HER DISINTEREST. Now, the moment you go out and pretend you're "gaming girls", you've cut the bridge with this girl for ever.

Okay, I was about to try gaming some girls tonight, but that's clearly something I shouldn't do then. What do I do best now? Text her daily? Set up a date (if yes, how)? How do I get rid of her boyfriend (for now I'm just ignoring him)?

I'm sorry I questioned your advice earlier on btw.

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I've looked up an earlier post of yours in this topic and a few question are already being answered (no telephone-crap, just ask her out be the fun guy).
Are there any do's and don'ts regarding asking her out and for the date itself?

^^ No problems with questioning me. The problem is that your questioning yourself. Relax. I already gave you all the answers to the questions your asking now. Trust yourself and follow through.

No matter what she says, this guy is not a "boyfriend" . . . this is like calling the "Knitting School of Omaha" a "University". You don't need to bring up the other guy but if she does, there's no reason to ignore it or slam it. Just go with, "that's nice . . . " and then move on to something more interesting than the "Knitting School of Omaha".

"Texting her daily" means you are communicating with her ineffectively. Learn to strategize your plan backwards. Meaning, if your goal is to make her your girlfriend, obviously, you'll have to spend more time together alone. If you want to spend more time together alone, you'll have to obviously get together ALONE for the first time and make it fun. So your #1 goal now is to get her out alone with you for the first time. As I wrote before, if you "ask her out" on a date, it could trigger a little alarm. (Guys aren't "supposed" to ask dates from girls who have "boyfriends" . . . right?)

So you think of something fun . . . art show, local sporting event, new cafe, etc . . .and you sell it.

You: Hey, you hear about that new cafe in ______?
Her: Blah, blah, blah . . .

You: Yeah, I hear it's pretty cool. I've heard they make the best choc. chip cookies.
Her: You're into cookies? Blah, blah, blah . . .

You: Isn't everybody? Let's go check it out. It'll be fun . .

She says yes, and it's on. If she gets flakey with logistics, (she might do this in order to protect herself a bit. She's no chocolate chip cookie whore . ..) then you arrange a better time that works for the both of you. If she says no (she will do it with a whole bunch of excuses) you don't massage her emotional crap but just say, "OK, next time. I'll do a chocolate chip cookie recon and give you a report.

Next time, you just give her a report on the great cookie and start up again with another fun event and invite her again. No problems . . . Don't bother thinking up more questions until you've arranged an outing. You are contemplating NOTHING. Stop day dreaming over this shit . . .

By the way, the whole point of "gaming" girls is to GAME girls . . . Right now, you're not gaming a girl who's sitting right in front of you on a platter. What makes you think you can go out to the jungle and start gaming strangers? Get your head screwed on straight and work on your self one step at a time. You're a young man, there is no shame in taking it step by step.

This sounds like excellent advice, thank you. But I probably won't see her for a week or more (because I only see her at work which is part time for both of us). How do I deal with this?

Text her with something offbeat:

"Hey, I just saw a turkey run cross the street." or "Can't wait to go to work. Gotta love it!" or "Hey, I'm dancing to 'Single Ladies' right now . . . " Anything . . .

She'll text back with something . . .

Then you immediately call her and share a little laugh over the text. Then you immediate segway into asking her out to a "fun event". Don't wait to see her at work. That's another week of DOING NOTHING. Doing NOTHING = Showing disinterest. . . It's another week of fortifying your habit of showing disinterest. Think up a fun event now. How long can this possibly take?

She's taking snowboardlessons on a treadmill (is it called like that? no real snow involved anyhow) this week, so I was wondering: asking her to go snowboarding at an indoortrack, is that I good idea?

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Now I come to think of it, no it isn't. It will rinkle her alarmbell because it's too much a direct "asking her out".

Where do you live?

And no, the "fun event" itself has NOTHING to do with "asking her out on a date". It's the process of asking her out that makes it either a "fun event" or a "date".

"Would you be my girlfriend?", "Will you go out with me?" "Can I take you out on a date?" Are all offers to take her out on a "date".

So . . .

"Hey, I'm planning on going snowboarding at _____ on Saturday, you ready to rock?" = an invite to a fun event.

"I think I like you so maybe we can try out a snowboarding date." = date proposal.

I live in the Netherlands.

Again, excellent advice.

Okay, yesterday she started to text me again and after a while she asked me what I was about to do next Saturday night (tonight that is). I told her I was going to a party at this club. She replied she was going to that club aswell, so I probably see her tonight, in a club.

What do I do now?

Username,

You're on your own. Nobody can stand by you and help you out word for word, punch by punch. My initial feelings regarding your situation was that you could make her your girlfriend by just "Uh Huhing" right through it. I still think that this is the case. She likes you. You like her. Why all the questions? Just go with it.

Go ahead and stutter. Go and hold her hands. Go ahead and give her a peck on the cheek and tell her that she's cute. Just go with your feelings. There is nothing complicated going on here. She's not playing games with your nor is she hiding her feelings. So, don't hide your feelings or play and silly "pua games" with her. This "game" is already finished as along as you allow it to happen.

Im still intrigued to how all this plays out. So buddy, what happened at the club? any luck with the escalation? still live by the word that this gal is in the bag man, all you gotta do is to step out of the comfort zone and push a little for it and from the sounds of things, its gonna be good outcome for you in the end. Just make things casual and dont make a big deal out of all this shit. you're really overthinking everything right now, you just gotta roll with it

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Welcome to the forum. Also if she text you, she like you

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