First Date at my Place, Then Disappears - WTF Happened?!



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:14 pm 
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I forgot, after she first told me kissing is too intimate, she said:

"I don't know why so many guys think all this stuff is gonna happen on a first date, that we're supposed to be making out and fucking and all of that. I just don't do that."

So apparently other guys out there are trying with her as well, and also failing on first dates.

That was telling me that she was laying the ground rules that she was not a first date whore, and I better not expect anything like that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:33 am 
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Never, ever lump yourself in with "other guys". You must have the attitude you're superior to them, and can accomplish things they can't. Women feed off this confidence.

Act like a confident, superior man and instead of hearing "sorry. I dont do that on dates", you'll hear "wow, I never do that on a first date" as she's walking to the bathroom to get the cum out of her hair.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:36 am 
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She said she doesn't "know why guys think that" because..... well lets go back to your first message.

You asked, "you wanna have the first date at one of our houses?". She would of thought, either this guy thinks sex is a big deal, or he thinks I'm easy. This is what i meant when i said you messed up from the get go. You shot yourself in the foot there and put her on the defense. She then asked you if you wanted to re-schedule and you were really eager, saying "hell no".

I'm saying about the "start" thing because this was your window of opportunity. I'm going to paint you a scenario. She's using her vibrator and the batteries are going in and out, till they come to a complete stop. She's really turned on here. She says "why won't you start up and fuck me?" She gets out new batteries, puts them in and says. "This is how we can start it"....

You were meant to lead and dominate from there. If you think being dominate will get the cops called like you said previous, newsflash. Read Derrick Rose- sex god method. It has 225 reviews with a 4.6 rating. There's a difference between rape and dominate. He made a valid point that if you weren't "dominant she would just fuck her dildo, or marry a woman who she has a lot more in common with".

*The vibrator scenario is how you need to think irregardless.

I first heard it from JackZero i think. "Always assume attraction."


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:50 am 
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The vibrator scenario is how you need to think irregardless. I first heard it from JackZero i think.
I can't take credit for that one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:47 am 
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You started going wrong here: "So she tells me she has to go right away, and I take her up in the elevator to the street. I ask her if she wants to get together again; she said she does. I tell her on the elevator ride up that a lot of girls will say yes to a second date just to get out of the situation, but then they go home and they think and think and think, and they think their way right out of wanting to see the guy again. She asked me if that's just what I assume they're doing or is that what the girls tell me? I told her it's just pretty clear with some girls. We had talked a little about disappearing acts earlier in the night."

Then you texted her over and over and went psycho on her. She's right - you have anger problems. And everything she said is correct. You talked to her in a way that's unacceptable. You need to address your anger issues before going on another date.

If you were a confident man you wouldn't speak to a woman that way. Again, get counseling help. Women owe you nothing.

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The vibrator scenario is how you need to think irregardless. I first heard it from JackZero i think.
I can't take credit for that one.

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You were meant to lead and dominate from there. If you think being dominate will get the cops called like you said previous, newsflash.

This.

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yeah, I think I am dominate [sic]

If a girl says that you are feeling her up too much and trying to get with her too much, and isn't interested in anything with you physically further, then you are being too dominant…

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:05 am 
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she found me, it was one of those, match.com picks...Girls typically don't write guys on these sites.

We set a date for Saturday. As you know, we got that huge blizzard in the east coast...she had the DVD collection of a show in mind that she wanted to bring...

She's really bouncy and perky and laughing at everything I say on the ride to my place. She talked mostly about herself all night...

...At my place, she says she's never been so comfortable so fast on a first date...She is really dressed sexy, to the nines; she put on some really sexy stuff for me.

She was cuddling with me on the couch and letting me put my hands all over her, but would not kiss me. She said "Kissing is just really intimate with me and I don't do that right away."

...After about 4-5 hours at my place...
Here's my re- write, of your story, they way it should have worked, with the voice like Joe Frank, https://www.joefrank.com/ as the narrator:
Bored on the subway, I flipped my cell phone on to a sex website. There's usually no time for it in my schedule of work with fools, working out, executing my plans, and allowing women to approach me at the government offices. A chick found me on the sex site. Girls typically don't write guys on these sites. When they do, they want me or at least the idea of me- virile, smart, but no so smart that they cannot manipulate me...just how I like the predator over estimating herself.

We set a date for Saturday. The blizzard suffocated the east coast. The temperature in my apartment would soon exceed the 80º on the gadget on the wall. She had the DVD collection of a show in mind that she wanted to bring...but it ain't movies she had in mind.

She's really bouncy and perky and laughing at everything I say on the ride to my place. Oddly, I wasn't saying anything. She transitioned well when I put her hand on my leg; she could drive a stick. She talked nervously mostly about herself all night...because she was attracted to a suave brute, and it scared her. She couldn't wait to slake her primitive pleasure, and it showed in her chatter.

...At my place, she says she's never been so comfortable so fast on a first date...She is really dressed sexy, to the nines; she put on some really sexy stuff for me. She wanted it, and I was gonna give it to her. She was cuddling with me on the couch...but would not kiss me. She said "Kissing is just really intimate with me and I don't do that right away." Her whorish impulses awakened by the wine and the temperature in my place, she stood up, "It's hot in here."

I immediately put on some Deep Dish on my HiFi. "Dance for me," I said, as I unbuttoned my shirt. My illicit mandate electrified her. The growing desire in my eyes, as she writhed gracefully, made her feel like master, servant, and star, momentarily not the tramp she was. I joined her, my hand running up her back, as she faced me, to wrap her hair around my fist. Pulling her head back I feigned a kiss to tease her, instead kissing her below her ear. I spun her around forcefully, bending her forward. Her hands planted on the coffee table, I outlined her ass and the space between legs, "say it." "Yes, make me your hot little tramp..." she gasped as her claws dug into the wood.

...After about 4-5 hours at my place... Her face, ears, and chest still burned red. I had my way with her again.The separate universes of the cold outside and burning passion beside me overwhelmed her. I got up, "you said you had to go by a certain hour." He doesn't want me anymore- she thought to herself. Panicked she blurted out, "can I stay?" She could not believe that voice came from her, because she was accustomed to mining a man and leaving. Perhaps another time- I thought out loud, as I called her a taxi. During her ride home, she sent some text thanking me for an incredible day or something to that effect. I didn't care. The next day she called me to say she wanted to see me again... I had seen this before. Amid so many lies and manipulations, I didn't care whether I saw her again.

Though I enjoyed her company, an opportunist is not the kind of girl you present to friends and family. By this point in my life, I had given up on fantasies of women with social graces and depth of heart to keep. I had accepted long ago the hard truth that women will not love men the way they want to be loved. This brief interlude completed, I went back to work, working out, and improving myself by reading and the arts. As expected, I never heard from her again. While only hard liquor revives my memory of her from time to time, it is my memory nonetheless.


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I actually did appreciate the hilarity of the similarity between this guy's situation and mine. That was quite a piece to read, lol. I'd like to find the original.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:37 am 
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Now I want to die, thank you for that. I've gone to the gym so many times and busted my ass on the treadmill, with dreams of a girl who dumped me, more times then you can count; and now you post that shit?

I actually did appreciate the hilarity of the similarity between this guy's situation and mine. That was quite a piece to read, lol. I'd like to find the original.

Thanks.
I re-wrote your account of the events as it should have happened. The "original" is that chick, who was in your place. There are several morals in my story and they are EXPLICIT.

One moral not in my story is if a chick does not want to have sex with you, no FREEZE OUT technique- just get rid of her, "this was a mistake." Men have to take responsibility for creating this environment of female irresponsibility and entitlement, because men instead of holding them accountable, worship women. Worship shifts the power to women. Through behavior modification, i.e. if women do not perform in exchange for your performance, then they get negative reinforcement. That message is that women should get is if they are not on good behavior they will get no attention from men. Women are very keen, through their BS movies and TV shows, about their "high standards" and to withhold everything if they are not treated like a princess. Well, hot damned, you, too, as a man must have your own standards. If all men, shut the door in the face of women, who do not perform, women will get the message quickly that they have to get with the program, because there are other broads, who will give you what you want.

In your scenario, she wanted it, but for whatever reason did not want to kiss. But, if she had persisted to not want to have sex- out. However, she did want. But, now based on my erotic short story, you know more or less what to do next time.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:40 am 
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Hey, can you tell us where this original piece is? This is some cool stuff. If this is really a mill author writing about his conquests/cool male Alpha life, i'd like to actually read it, or hear the narration… What is it called?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:41 am 
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Hey, can you tell us where this original piece is? This is some cool stuff. If this is really a mill author writing about his conquests/cool male Alpha life, i'd like to actually read it, or hear the narration… What is it called?
Menso, I just wrote it. It's entitled, "What poodogr should have done." If I wrote narratives of the things I have done and will do, the moderators will ban me, because I act contrary to the PUA training, as an old MGTOW, natural, and idiot.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:24 am 
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I think of it is like an old radio piece, with maybe a saxophone in the background, and some light piano for some portions of it; it definitely had that noir feel to it

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Now I want to die, thank you for that. I've gone to the gym so many times and busted my ass on the treadmill, with dreams of a girl who dumped me, more times then you can count; and now you post that shit?

Thanks.
Your an emotional wreck, guy and i do think you need counseling.

I don't want to give you any advice as i fear i'd be an accomplice to murder. It wouldn't go down well. " What are you in for?" "I was talking to this guy on the internet and gave him advice and he killed someone". "What was his name?" :roll:.... It's a joke.

On a serious note, you should look into coaching, but that's costly...... But it would be worth it seeing as though you haven't come very far in nearly nine years. A month of that could send you a long way. Then come back and ask questions

Something to think about when your running on the treadmill at the gym.


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