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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:17 pm 
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I'm doing martial arts for quite a while.

I was just curious how those pick up guys handle with conflict situations if they don't know any fight/self defence skills. I guess they just avoid it.
In my case, I don't avoid it. The guys just leave when I enter sets. Most guys are beta anyway so they avoid any form of physical confrontation like a plague when they sense you're alpha and/or have self defense skills; not unless the guys are in groups of five or more people. In such case, you have to befriend the group as long as they are not crossing the line.

Generally, most men are afraid of pain. When they sense that you can inflict damage, they avoid offending you in any way.

Physical safety is one advantage to day game compared with night game. When I go to clubs though, I befriend several bouncers and give them tips worth their day's wage before I even start sarging. Those bouncer friends will cockblock any dude who tries to open your current set.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:03 am 
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As a life long Muay Thai practioner I'm gonna say that more you know the less you have to use. I've had guys try, and amog me before by pushing me I very calmly say it would be in your best interest for you to not place your hand on again. Everytime that has happened the amog backs away and if I'm with a girl she is instantly more attracted to me.

One time I had to use force is when I was attacked by a jealous ex bf of the girl I was dating I instantly went into fight mode, and 5 seconds later he's on the ground he had a weapon so at the time we were just glad to get out of there safely I wasn't worried about how impressed she was, but I'm sure she was.

I'm some what of a folk hero in my hometown so I don't have a problem with being amoged, but the odd time I'll have someone have a try I just play it cool, and usually one of his friends will advise against what he's trying to do, but that's something I've earned.

At the end of the day being cool headed will get you more points than anything. There's nothing less alpha then having some ding dong run his mouth at you, and getting in a fight over it. You end up with a possible criminal record because some goof said something you don't like not very alpha imo.


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I'm doing martial arts for quite a while.

I was just curious how those pick up guys handle with conflict situations if they don't know any fight/self defence skills. I guess they just avoid it.

Never really happened to me, even though I typically bring the hottest girls to the club/bar when I go out. Mostly drunk guys come up to say how hot she is or something or buy me a drink. If the girl is into you and giving your respect, most guys aren't gonna really mess with you. If she's eye fucking dudes or acting uninterested, guys will come up because they see a chance to take her away. If you go to decent places with a cool crowd you can avoid running into guys trying to fight.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:38 am 
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I've never been in a situation where a guy has tried to steal my girl in front of me and caused any sort of aggression where I thought there would be a fight. Most guys wait until I go to the restroom to try to approach her and they always fail (I pull the line from David D. - I think it was him - "You two would look so cute together...." and the guy loses any power because he doesn't know what to say next aside from "Yeah, we would" or something stupid like that).

If you're concerned over it then start working out or get a self-defense video and learn some moves but chances are you won't be getting in fights because of a woman. Actually, from what I've seen while out, I think the guys who try to start fights are more often than not with a woman and trying to show off.

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much of my scepticism of pua has to do with my resources being involved and the fact that, most companies do not even acknowledge the threat of other violent males. I do not believe this cause, if you are esculating hard, you will provoke other violent males, white knights, and man-ginas alike. Sometimes, you may approach a woman who has a bf who may have watched one too many Van Damme movies. Its ridiculous.

I am unapologetic. the only thing I say is that, a man does not try to intentionally step on another mans toes. She is cute. I approached. that is it dude. Really, its a compliment. Worst case scenario, there are security and bouncers to handle the situation.

I met this really nice guy at a wedding who did kick boxing. he said he grew up scared, had lots of anxiety, and depression. it taught him to be with his fear, to confront it, and embrace it with truth. he was actually a kick boxing champ in the amateurs and yet, the nicest guy I ever met.


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Man i went out for a whole year almost everynight and i never got punched ONCE and got laid alot
There was a period in my year in which i specifically tested guys to see how far they'd go

Closest i ever got to a fight was one dude who i told em to "Walk away" as soon as i walked in the set of course i always initiated the conflict haha trying to be alpha as fuck, but i realized that shit doesnt work

The dude ended up getting all up on my face and we both lost the girls haha the chicks ran off looking for good vibes

Although sometimes it worked some dudes just run off to avoid conflict, some dudes know how to fight and stay on your face, is hilarious

Moral of the story, be nice to people, no need to fight
I also noticed, if your grounded and fearless guys could tell your not someone to fuck with.
Unless they're retarded or drunk which is rare, you wont have to worry about fights, just be cool and always have good vibes

Trying to out Alpha another guy with physicality is lame in my opinion, and a dangerous tactic, it can work, but only for those who dare to try it AND i wouldnt recommend it.

Oh and i forgot to mention, guys with girlfriends who are insecure always get stupid, but i useually back off from that, is just drama. no need.

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Closest i ever got to a fight was one dude who i told em to "Walk away" as soon as i walked in the set of course i always initiated the conflict haha trying to be alpha as fuck, but i realized that shit doesnt work

The dude ended up getting all up on my face and we both lost the girls haha the chicks ran off looking for good vibes.
My point exactly is that, this shit happens but, if you listen to most instructors, they preach it does not. Its not even recognized so, hard esculation with the wrong girl around her bf, husband, finance, and or white knight could result into fisticuffs. This is not to say, walk on egg shells and be afraid. Just be intelligent.

I am not fighting over a girl. I had a recent incident back to back nights with fight scenarios. Not a single fist was thrown but, it came close those times. I picked up more girls throughout the week taking numbers, I pulled midweek, and then, there was the gangbang women I mentioned in another post.



Something I feel compelled to mention is that, I notice nights seem to have a peak, and its best to pull immediately other wise, a fight happens, her girl friends get kicked out, her brother gets beat to death or god knows what happens. Flash game is great.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:32 pm 
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A true alpha will defend his pack and when the pack is verbally under attack hr will take the lead even if therebis the risknthe fight get physical. However one should use his posture,voice, ... to calm the situation. In no way should a genuine alpha walk away to avoid a fysical fight (calling the police/security is however advised prior to engage opponentd), it's very omega to walk away when someone else is under attack.

Even when the verbal attack comes from someone who is under influence. (actually happened to me a few weeks ago while comuting to work in a train)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:12 am 
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Something I feel compelled to mention is that, I notice nights seem to have a peak, and its best to pull immediately other wise, a fight happens, her girl friends get kicked out, her brother gets beat to death or god knows what happens. Flash game is great.
yea i suppose, i went out for a whole year str8 almost everynight
Nightgame is so time/energy consuming now i just do it for fun whenever i want but not as much because im more of a relationship type of guy now, ahhh the glory days though, always fun fucking random girls haha

I'm trying out daygame now and it seems more easy and flexible
So far i've gotten very good results with daygame and it seems to be less of a hassle

Lets see a year from now ill do some more accurate comparing

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:25 pm 
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Something I feel compelled to mention is that, I notice nights seem to have a peak, and its best to pull immediately other wise, a fight happens, her girl friends get kicked out, her brother gets beat to death or god knows what happens. Flash game is great.
yea i suppose, i went out for a whole year str8 almost everynight
Nightgame is so time/energy consuming now i just do it for fun whenever i want but not as much because im more of a relationship type of guy now, ahhh the glory days though, always fun fucking random girls haha

I'm trying out daygame now and it seems more easy and flexible
So far i've gotten very good results with daygame and it seems to be less of a hassle

Lets see a year from now ill do some more accurate comparing
Do tell. I would love to hear your experiences. I started out mostly doing the bar scene, clubs, and pubs. I want to travel too. I notice a better group when doing day game. The amount of flakes and fights is down significantly. Also, the conversion rate is so much stronger but, flash game is practically nonexistent.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 am 
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I can whoop some ass not to brag. I put several guys in the hospital over BS at bars (I went to another place that is similar to a hospital but they put you in orange jump suits not blue dresses) :shock:

But guys, be mature, act like adults. Don't fight over bitches bro. They are not worth it. This is not Tombstone Arizona in the 1870's. Nowadays they will send you to prison for farting on someone.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:33 am 
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I've taken on the motto "Don't start fights. But make sure you finish them."

When I was younger... I thought that meant I had to take on any asshole who challenged me. I developed a pretty mean head butt which makes people around you think you're an absolute psycho. After you get arrested a few times... You realize that fighting isn't usually the best solution.

Now, being a bit older and a bit wiser, (still just as dumb in other situations thought) I've learned that it's best to use my words to diffuse a situation rather than to add fuel to the fire by getting physical. This might be one of those mistakes that you have to learn for yourself... lets just hope you don't get the battery charges like I did lol

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