I think magnums messing with you, I cant believe hes serious with self effacing, DLV text

She told him he judged her. It's obvious she is his one itis. No amount of game is going to help him get this girl. Its time to be honest and stop believing in DHV and gaming techniques that have failed already.

Sometimes in life it is appropriate to apologize. This is a perfect example of innocently hurting someone's feelings without meaning to. Don't pretend to be tuff when she knows your not. It's clear from the text message that you are far off the mark. You fucked up and my text message comment will work. But again like I said it's your life. But I'm not joking.

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Yea you'r right..
Hopefully something positive comes out of this loll

*FACE FUCKING PALM*

HERE'S A FUN TEST, APPOLOGISE WHEN SHE IS NOT ATTRACTED, GOOD PLAN, WHEN THE GUY MOST LIKELY CANT ESCALATE AND REBUILD THE ATTRACTION, EVEN IF SHE GETS THE COMFORT TO STOP FLAKING, YEAH... GOOD IDEA,


WHY DON'T YOU JUST INVITE HER OUT EVERY DAY, FOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS, SEE IF SHE COMES OUT, EVERY SINGLE DAY, TEXT HER 11AM SHARP HEY IT'S ME AGAIN, HOW IS YOUR DAY?

WANT TO COME HANG OUT?

I LOVE YOU, AND I CAN NOT BE WITHOUT YOU !!

keep going that direction, I BET SHE WILL COME OUT WITH YOU AND BE WITH YOU, AND INTO THE SUNSET YOU GO

goodluck with the female player, she gets what she wants, and you don't, everyone is happy, smiles all around!!

I predict something negative but keep us in the loop and prove me wrong.

lmao this is actually pretty funny to see how different forumers in this thread have completely different opinion on the matter.

Well here is the UPDATE:

I texted her 10mins ago, apologizing and saying I actually like her. She replied immediately with: "Thank you. I really appreciate it."

I honestly can't make much off that reply except she's satisfied with the fact that i grew some balls and apologized. Apart from that, i don't know, but at least I won't have this situation on my head anymore.. whether or not i lost my chances, it's much easier to move on now. So thank you Magnum.

@ Pump:

How would you have handled this situation?

if she was attracted magnum had a half decent idea, get the comfort, re-affirm attraction, connect with her on something deep for more comfort, get her alone, escalate, and fuck

but, you don't have the attraction, now, watch, I CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE, I AM A WIZARD

invite her out right now, tell her to come hang out at your house or do something with you alone, she will flake, if she doesn't do what I said, be in a good mood, tease her and have a few laughs, physically escalate, and try to close

but MY PREDICTION IS SHE FLAKES AND REMEMBER I AM A WIZARD

my strategy for handling players was listed in previous post, HAVE TO GO DIRECT, TELL HER YOU WANT SEX, BUT DON'T NEED IT, TELL HER YOU WANT HER, BUT DON'T NEED HER

then leave her the hell alone, don't do things for her, be normal don't flirt show interest or anything, be formal but not nice, completely indifferent, she will test you on it

she will say things like, i love you, she will be rude, she will give you half assed flaky invites to come out with her friends, or come see her at X location, do not take the bait, just stay strong, don't pay attention to her, when she flaky invites you, you invite her to your house, when she flakes, your response, is OK, well im watching this movie, it is pretty good, ill ttyl, make sure she is investing way more in every convo then you, DON'T CALL HER, LET HER CALL YOU, stick to text, so you can't get cornered, if she asks why say NO MORE INTERVIEWS, TTYL

she needs you to be strong and different not a needy little boy, like every other needy little boy that falls in love with her, it is the guys that ignore this girl, and treat her normal without flirting with her, that end up getting in her pants, for actually showing an interest in her, and being a challenge,

but it is too late, it does not matter that you love this girl, she is your oneitis, and she already dis-qualified you, girls are unforgiving, if you don't have sex with them, and you turn them off, they are turned off, you lose, GAME OVER

you need to hit the re-set button and stay away from her for like a month+ cut all contact, it will be hard, but it must be done so you can move on, next time if you re-contact and try again, make sure you have other girls in your life you are having sex with or the same process will start again,

I suggest you do the newbie mission in the question section, under the sticky threads

if that is easy for you, complete this challenge
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you need abundance and numbers, having no girls makes you needy as fuck, and the number one closing of vagina personality traits, is neediness, if you want a super ugly fat girl, who gets no attention, by all means, go try to be her friend, don't show any interest, and act really needy, she will suck your dick eventually, if you touch her a bit on the shoulders, after a month or two

but your dealing with a girl that has alot of options stacked up, she is a female player, they crave attention and validation, feed them, and lose, give them some good food, then cut off the source without them returning the favor and they go crazy

lmao I love this guy!! yes, I will pump it up!

It doesn't matter if she flakes or not. Stop trying so hard to sleep with her, it's a turn off. Asking her to hang out is confusing for her, and I wouldn't recommend it. You don't really want to hang out. You just want to fuck. No amount of game will conceal your agenda. She either wants to fuck you or she doesn't. So just relax and let it happen.

Don't invite her out. Don't text her. You are at peace now. It's her move now. If she wants you then she has a brain and she knows you want her. She can easily invite you out or offer to hang out with you. This girl is not shy. If she doesn't contact you anymore then thats great too. But if you randomly run into her then you are gold. Because you are at peace now, and you are not dependent on her decision for your self-esteem. That makes you truly confident. And guys that are confident get the pussy - always.

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I think you aren't understanding his situation (or maybe I'm not.) From what I understand he's not in it just for the pussy, he genuinely likes her (if that's not the case John101 correct me.) If he actually likes her, he really does want to hang out. Of course if they end up fucking I doubt he will complain but he actually likes her, he's not in it just for the sex or else I doubt he would try this hard. Get a full grasp of the situation, and this guys thoughts, before you make these assumptions about every girl that exists. There have been plenty of girls I've been with that are nothing like how you have been portraying them in your posts. (Of course if I'm way off with how I'm interpreting what John was saying I just made an ass of myself but I'm willing to take that risk to get my views and morals out there.)

no, not assumptions, it is the way it works, 99/100, that girl is not interested, if he truly 'likes the girl' he will be fine just being her friend and nothing more, and this will not get him laid, but it is likely that she is not interested in either and is shooting validation towards him, to receive favors and ego boosts, basicly the advice givin in this thread might be or seem somewhat harsh but what do you think is better for the guy...

putting a shit load of time and investment into a girl who does not return this investment, becomming even more attached ''really liking her'' even more, and then getting his heart destroyed and stepped on, while being used in the process?

or

going out, and actually putting an effort into stepping outside the comfort zone, getting over AA and learning that if you just approach 50 girls in a day, and start showing them you're interested and being honest about it, you find girls who will appreciate you, and who will sleep with you and not use you?

now what in your opinion, is the better of the two choices for this guy?, and when he is being needy and attached because he doesn't have the motivation to go out and meet other women, and thinks there is something here when there is nothing, is it really that wise to instruct him, KEEP TRY'N BRO, GIRLS LOVE IT WHEN YOU CAN'T BE WITHOUT THEM AND ACT DESPERATE AND LET THEM WALK ALL OVER YOU!! MAYBE IN TWO YEARS SHE WILL GIVE YOU A HANDJOB FOR BEING HER GOOD LITTLE PUPPY

How do you know she isn't interested in either? If a girl is dependent upon validation wouldn't that make her want to be at least a friend?



KEEP TRY'N BRO, GIRLS LOVE IT WHEN YOU CAN'T BE WITHOUT THEM AND ACT DESPERATE AND LET THEM WALK ALL OVER YOU!! MAYBE IN TWO YEARS SHE WILL GIVE YOU A HANDJOB FOR BEING HER GOOD LITTLE PUPPY[/quote]

No one is saying to him that he should be desperate. I understand that you read into it like that, but no one is telling him to act like a wussy. It is okay to be honest with people. There is nothing wrong with not being the most confident guy in the world. It's okay, and I think it's better if we realize we aren't the most confident people in the world, because the sooner we do, the sooner we will stop being an asshole to women out of our insecurities.

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@ Pump: I agree with 70% of your theories, because I know they will actually get me going, and not focus on one, two, or three girls. With your theory I can play the numbers game, which will give me way more experience and way more chances of getting laid than doing indirect approaches. And yes, I'm currently doing your challenge

The only problem I have with your reasoning is that you are a little extreme, but I'll still go along with your stuff and try new things.

For the record, she was interested into me lol.. maybe playing hard to get, but there was "definitely" attraction (probably still is).

@ Magnum: Your advice yesterday was great, I used it and I'm happy to have done so. Although I did not go to the extent of telling that I need her in my life, I still made it obvious that I had balls to apologize and admit that I do like her, and she received it very well.
You are also right in the fact that I genuinely like her, and I'm not even in it for the sex.
Thanks to your advice and pump's challenge, I took her out of mind, and am moving in on at a very fast pace

"i grew some balls and apologized"

this sentence is an oxymoron

How so, apologizing when you genuinely should is perfectly acceptable.

In fact, the one who refuses to ever apologize is the pansy in my eyes.

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