m2 what types of dating activities do you do with women: Restaurant is afc dude!!noooooo restaurants...Best dates walking by the beach and talking, dancing, or coming over or you going over to watch a movie...Restaurants and movie theater are horrible for logistics..

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With girl A, dinner, boat ride through the inner harbor, walk, met up for drinks....I drove, and attempted to get back to her place for a movie, but she said she was too tired, kind of dumb, but we made out in the car before dropping her off.

With girl b, dinner, walk, ect ect

I normally START with the restaurant, comfort building and all and then go do something else.

noooooooooooo Restaurants nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo that is courtship/afc...you are setting them up to relationship, that is your mistake, you are doing what every other loser do, restaurants... nooooooooooo! that is your answer and the problem with your game..get David d Double your dating...From my experiences and the guys that i know that get laid, key no traditional dating stuff...

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Guys---seriously need some help. Recently I apply a mix of MM, Cocky-Funny and everything in between. I got literally 0 issues with picking up (in multiple mediums and scenarios)


I just read mm, piece of garbage, David dangelo, do not do cocky/funny, do sexual/funny, i learn from Howard Stern, and since the beginning go sexual, you want to be the guy she fucks, no the guy she marries...Here is some sexual/funny of a girl i picked up on the weekend, no dinner, no courtship, if i see i am going to fuck her, look at the text covo:


HB: Hi sexxy its amy
Me:my name ain't sexy is latin diesel, miz uz
Hb:Ur sexxxxy to me bby.. mwah
Me: Muaz back with tongue
hb:I had a lot of fun dancing with you
Me: I had a lot of fun pretending to be dancing just grabbing your ass...
hb: I like you grabbing my ass
hb: send me a pic
me: nooooooo that is evidence
hb: evidence for what
me: for whatever bad thing i do
hb: what bad thing
me: i don' t know use your imagination
hb:i want to do bad things to you!
me: good for you i wish i could say the same thing lol
me: talk is cheap actions speak louder than words...
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See thats where we differ. Howard Stern is a little lowbrow for me. I HAVE gotten laid just from drinks, or going to a restaurant. You got your style, I got mine. However, I could use some tweaking in the seduction department and will take your suggestion along with anyone elses who wants offer under advisement. Good looking out man.

Thanks for all the suggestions btw. I think you may be onto something here, Ill tweak and let you know.

m2 when you tell a girl(from seinfeld for example, do you want to come in for a cup of coffee) it means do you want to come up and have sex right, analogy, when you ask a girl on a date, to restaurant and all that other stuff you are doing, in their head is this guy is looking for a girlfriend, do i see him as a possible boyfriend... fucked up frame, what you want is a women to look at you as the guy she wants to fuck, no the guy she wants a relationship with or a hubby, then after you fucked them if that is were you want to go, relationship, marriage, it is easier to do it backwards...

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I thought dinners were a nono because after eating, digestion process takes up a lot of energy and puts in in a relaxed/sleepy state which means no sex for you.

Dude- loving me some Seinfeld. I remember that episode, excellent metaphor. I see your point now. I'll have throw a little more symbolism or shaded innuendo into. Good call.
Like I said, I have gotten laid from dinner, but it is only because we did something physical after. Otherwise you do get the "itis"

on the subject of dinners--i see the evolutionary process at work on the AFCs--as a result of economic environment changes....those dudes are getting more and more reluctant to throw out say 100 hard earned bucks to take girl on 'date' /dinner who will get well fed, peck him on the cheek and jump into a taxi never to be seen again.
they are evolving without knowlege of pua

What do you think then? Should our approach be altered? Dinner has it's uses, but I do see it is more an after coitus type thing...plus its safe and lazy. I don't think I will be using it for awhile. Also, how are they evolving exactly? Cheapness is not natural selection.

Herne in ingles please, i had no idea what you just said, the afc are evolving wtf?

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m2 do me a favor no more dinners, thank you! Send me a check for that dinner after you get laid... I will pm you my bank acct.

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Check my previous post, I have sworn off them until after coitus. After all, coffee is not coffee. I quoted myself. Shit, this is turning into an epic thread. [/quote]

What is coitus??? Too much intellect for me lol

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