Thank you Bond for going through all the trouble of grabbing a sample for me.

So what I got from your example is, get her laughing and if at all possible, get her to invite you out by dropping hints about what you want to do?

Ted, I've read that book, it was very nice.

Thanks for the replies again, I'm really trying to work on being patient. I'm just not a naturally funny person so it's hard for me to build up investment in text and calls until I ask her out. I've let myself gain the fear that if I don't quickly wrap up conversations with women, that they'll stop responding to the conversation.

This is what I used to think. I once set a girl an ultimatum because she kept flaking even though I really enjoyed speaking to her. In the end I ended up looking like a fool because I re-contacted her and she didn't respond. Learn from your mistakes but as long as you're both enjoying the conversation you shouldn't feel like that. A girl has never suddenly stopped responding to me unless I've done something stupid like the above example.

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totally agree, you need to build some attraction first before you jump into day two, and you got to make her want to see you more than you want to see her.

Given my small experience with dating women, I think if a girl does not reply, it's a bad sign. The girls that agree and show up for day 2, in my experience, were horny and wanted kino. I am not great at connecting with women, but come to think of it, with some girls I clicked and was looking forward to spending time with them, and with others I was surprised that they threw themselves at me on the day two, like that came out of nowhere. I all of these cases, the girls wanted to either grind all over each other on the day (the girl i took to a night club for the day two), or watch a movie and have sex (the one that I thought I clicked with), or kiss on the street (the one that wanted to have sex at the party where I met her.) Another one I picked up at a nightclub where we danced all night expected me to take her out and buy her a meal. Because I was new at going out with women and was not sure about the signals and was not ready to kiss them or have sex with them right away, they lost interest and day three never happened.

I invited a girl to a night club and she agreed right away, but left without saying good bye and did not give me her number. Then I invited her to a coffeeshop via facebook and she took several days to reply and ignored the invite. She then invited me to her party, but then got buyers remorse and did not give me the time or directions and she never followed through. Then she kept hinting that she wanted me to invite her, every time I told her about something I do (salsa dancing, concerts, etc.) and she looked upset when I did not bite, having been rejected by her in the past and not wanting to bother with her cause she is prob a flake, and told her when and where she should go assuming she will be going there without me and she looked upset that i did not invite her and not interested in the directions now that she'd be going there on her own. People invite each other to dates and never follow up all the time. Keep that in mind and if you invite her once and she does not bite, don't invite her again. Persistance won't make a woman chase you, it will drive her away.

TRY FLIRTING - meeting new women and complimenting them or teasing them. Then they might start to desire you more and be more ready for a date.

Dude, I have some clues for you.

1) Look at the actual words you use during the moment of truth: "you can tag along... IF YOU LIKE", "bla bla bla IF YOU WANT?", and "bla bla bla... same time?" You're handing your balls to these women on a silver platter. Why? Why make them decide? They see that as lack of dominance.

Be dominant: "There is this great place I know where they serve XYZ, let's go there Tuesday." What about the time you say? "Let's meet at XYZ PM."

You don't ask women dude, you tell them. In doing that, you come across like you know they want to, hell, you assume more than their interest; you assume they will be there. That shows confidence and dominance = you attract them.

2) If a girl's busy, don't f-ing chase her. Sorry for my French here, but if she REALLY likes you then her royal higness would make some freaking time on her "schedule" no matter how busy she is, know what I mean? People have a life, cool, but the second time she says busy? Move on. Just move on and meet others.

3) The one who is least available leads the other. Think about it.

4) Don't know if it was you who mentioned the female friends situation, but when you find yourself befriending lots of hot women... ask yourself... was it my intention to befriend them in the first place? If not, don't be friends with them. Period. Otherwise you motivate yourself to keep trying when all hope is lost BUT more importantly: you accept circumstances in your life that you did NOT want to create. If you want to run your life, your environment is a product of you... and you're not a product of your environment.

Only accept results that stem from your intentions, never settle for lesser results. Because you know what that leads to right? Marrying a fat pig and having babies with her while you don't want to

As long as you feel OK if the girls says NO and you don't lash out at her for that. Coming on aggressive and controlling like that would be a red flag for me. I'd be afraid for my safety. But that's just me.

Keep it simple, when arraging for day 2, nice examples of that are in Jersey Shore.

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Might as well throw in my critique. I'm going to include what I would say.

Me: It's been a while (girls name), have you been doing well?
(Rakeal: Long time no see, how ya been?)

Her: Hiii!!! Its definietely been a lonnggg while haha. The year has been pretty crazy with its ups and downs, but lately I have been doing well Smile How have you been?
(She showed lots of interest here)

Rakeal: "ups and downs" Me too.. and a little in and out hahaha (maybe that's too much. I don't know the girl or the situation. You have a multitude of options with that one).

Me: Great, got back from school, so I've been recharging. I've been getting bored lately so I've been trying all sorts of crazy stuff, yoga, salsa, everything it seems.
(telling her you are bored and desperately trying to fill the gap is a BAD idea)

You should come with me sometime for lunch to add to the interesting things I'm doing this summer.
(You asked her out, on a high pressure date e.i lunch, right after a series of DLV's)

Her: haha sounds good! yeah.. i've kind of been recharging when I can. I'm starting up summer quarter next week... so that'll be a little less relaxing.

Me: Sad times... but I'm guessing you are doing it to finish up faster, right? I'm jealous, I cannot wait to finish college next year.
Rakeal: Cool, we should recharge together, chill out and catch up on old times. It'll be fun.

I'm going to Jamba Juice this weekend actually, I have intense urge for a starburst flavored smoothie. You can tag long if you like; I was planning for Sat. around 1, but I'll think about delaying it if you let me know the next time you are free.

Her: Yeah... kinda to finish faster I guess. more so so that I don't fall behind!
I'm actually busy all day saturday... sorry! but maybe sometime next week?

Me: I think I can do that. Didn't you say school starts for you next week? When do you get off?

Her: Yeah, but I only have class Monday, Wednesday, Thursday

Me:Tuesday sound good, same time?

Her:gahh.. haha I forgot, not tuesday.. i have to work

Me: lol, when are you free next weekend then?

Your showing her that you have nothing to do on any of these and are just waiting around for her. She wants to meet up with you (as a friend) but it's not urgent. The more you pressure her the more you trigger feelings that she is leading you on. You don't want women feeling bad for you. Don't think that there is something wrong with you ect. Man I get rejected ALL the f-ing time.

I also want to say that most women play hard to get and this is the game. My number one girl ALWAYS does that shit. She told me once that the reason she sticks with me is because most guys either give up or turn creepo. I just stay patient and keep trying. I do better on the phone because WHEN I get rejected, I laugh it off and say, no problem. Next thing ya know she is calling me back. It's just how the game works. You can't win them all. If that were the case I would never leave my bedroom. lol

Aggressive? Lol, dude it's called being dominant. Women want you to take the lead. I do agree with you though how no one should make a big deal out of a No because lashing out at her for it is weak man, it's being insecure.

Most of the time though, a no is not a definite one. It's often a "No, not yet" which means you need to create more attraction, more comfort, and try again. Of course, if she still says No then it's time to move on.

No need to chase chicks for months without it paying off.

april6e, Check out this thread on the mid game section:
Start Day 2 Convo Made Easy - REAL EPISODE

I met a girl last week at a bday party at a friends house. Lots of ppl from all ages since it was a female friend's 21 bday party. I focused on just having fun with every1, making fun of her, desqualifying from being a potencial seducer since she was a HB9 and there was always ppl around and it would look too obvious if i even tried to run real game. I didnt number close cause since i knew i would find her on facebook, i i decided to not show that much interest... sooooo... check out the thread on out 1st convo on fb.

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Thanks for checking up on me.

I liked the topic, that was some nice banter there. I hope to someday be able to be able to banter so well that that woman suggests the Day 2 herself, like in your FR.