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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:45 pm 
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Because like us men women have the right to cheat. There is no law for cheating.

Women are more hornier and dirtier than men and are good at hiding it. Heck, they can get away with murder.


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The OP asked, "Why do girls cheat?"

However, everybody here offered an answer to a different question, "Why and how do girls JUSTIFY their promiscuity?"

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The bottom line is that it's not normal for a girl to cheat, and it should never be tolerated. Men cheat because they crave sexual variety- that's just the way you are; it's natural. Plus, you can detach yourself from sex.

BUT REALIZE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN, THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
Perception is more powerful than reality. You'd expect middle America, 'God fearing' pregnant high school drop outs to believe this shit. The reality is that the propaganda for this shit is so powerful that I've seen PhD's go straw man to prove why "women SHOULD NOT cheat". With THIS MUCH la-la land idiocy clouding their judgment, it is no wonder why chicks are so quick to draw an excuse card from the files and pull a "I was not fulfilled" or "I was not loved" card out for everybody to see. WOMEN CANNOT possibly stray . . . if you do, you're a _____!*&@#($(!!!!!

So they all go this route: "HEY! I AM NOT A S-L-U-T!~!!! I was merely, 'not fulfilled'. . . " - Ehmm . . . it's the guy's fault.

Neither men nor women 'cheat' while thinking, "I need this or that or I lack this or that." Regardless of why the REALLY cheat . . . all of this BS comes AFTER they cheat.
The point of under-standing backwards rationalisations and cognitive bias is to understand how perceptions can be altered with emotion, hindsight or hidden motivations. It's not a "Personal testimony can be ignored hur dur hur" card.

It reminds me of Epistemology tutorials when some novice who had just picked up the subject to get some credits, interrupts a discussion mid class to posit the question "But how can you know that the world is not just a fake?"

The whole room students and tutor alike roll their eyes and slam their heads on desks infront of them.

Skeptisism has a lesson to teach, but it's more subtle than, "everything could be fake".

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As to Skylark and Roz, you may be surprised to know that we are NOT naturally designed to "spread the seed".

We are designed to find a partner, fuck them, have kids, and stick around so you can have more kids (you don't need to look around for another available mate) and also stay to teach and raise your kids, increasing their chances of passing on your genes.

Though I will side with the notion that sex/gender should not be an influencing factor on how you percieve the cheating.

It is however very much a case by case thing, and maybe you oneday will have to accept that your relationship is worth fighting for even though one of you screwed up.


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Why do girls cheat.

Because there is always a better man than you round the corner.

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The point of under-standing backwards rationalisations and cognitive bias is to understand how perceptions can be altered with emotion, hindsight or hidden motivations. It's not a "Personal testimony can be ignored hur dur hur" card.
So you're saying that it's important understand:
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how perceptions can be altered with emotion,
Because: WOMEN CANNOT possibly stray . . . if you do, you're a _____!*&@#($(!!!!!

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hindsight or hidden motivations.
Because: I was merely, 'not fulfilled'. . . " - Ehmm . . . it's the guy's fault.

Practically speaking, we are not dealing with truth vs. belief. Even if we were to monitor chemical synapses of their brains before, during, and after cheating, we would never know the truth; The reasons for cheating on a partner is not the color red. This is the very point that I made in my initial reply. Even the cheater has to often regress and think of 'why' he/she cheated (for that particular time period, people involved, etc . . and later on, their perceptions OFTEN change . . .). We're working with 100% perception. And in this thread, all we have to go by are the beliefs of several posters. Far from ignoring them, I am focusing ONLY on their testimonials.

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We are designed to find a partner, fuck them, have kids, and stick around so you can have more kids (you don't need to look around for another available mate) and also stay to teach and raise your kids, increasing their chances of passing on your genes.
I thought you were the king of citing research and backing up statements? There are way too many studies that refute the above statement.


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Practically speaking, we are not dealing with truth vs. belief. Even if we were to monitor chemical synapses of their brains before, during, and after cheating, we would never know the truth; The reasons for cheating on a partner is not the color red. This is the very point that I made in my initial reply. Even the cheater has to often regress and think of 'why' he/she cheated (for that particular time period, people involved, etc . . and later on, their perceptions OFTEN change . . .). We're working with 100% perception. And in this thread, all we have to go by are the beliefs of several posters. Far from ignoring them, I am focusing ONLY on their testimonials.

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We are designed to find a partner, fuck them, have kids, and stick around so you can have more kids (you don't need to look around for another available mate) and also stay to teach and raise your kids, increasing their chances of passing on your genes.
I thought you were the king of citing research and backing up statements? There are way too many studies that refute the above statement.
I think I can agree with you at the start, things are only certain with hindsight and even hindsight is in-accurate and riddled with mis-perception. As for women who are cheaters by nature, they're fewer in number and usually it's for some very obvious reasons and they can be marked out and avoided long before any you even consider them for a relationship of any sorts.

As to the second part. I've mis-phrased it horribly.

There are studies that show infidelity in mammals and that their are few true monogamous animals, us not being one of them. But compared to many other animals we are less polyamourus, becuase we have to be, snakes will fuck and leave the mum with her eggs, the eggs hatch and the mum doesn't really have to do much outside of incubate. The parents don't need to really parent as a neo-natal snake is pretty much a fully functioning snake but smaller.

Wolves, a bit more is needed but again the alpha male doesn't need to do much apart from fight of the other beta males with the help of his second in command and then help get a kill in the hunt when the kids need fed. Outside of that, wolf pups don't need much help, just protection until they are strong enough and a bit of help getting the basics of hunting and fighting down.

Chimps, we go a step up, we're getting more "partnerships" appearing as now the younger chimps need to learn about tools, landmarks, social infrastructure, diet choice.

Us.

We need one to one partnerships alot more for kid rearing, in the human world 100 single mum children will be out performed by the 100 partnered children. Parents in the human world have a much bigger role, from teaching the kid how to eat with a knife and fork, to filling out a cheque.

The way we interact with the world and the way we grow is far more cognitively based than other animals, we can't leave our kids to learning via instinct forever. At some point we need to teach him/her their ABC's.

Thats why permanent relationships focusing between two people are far more the norm.


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