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That's not even how a piano would boyfriend destroy. I stick up for her boyfriend then make his actions look insecure about how much he loves her.


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Thanks for all the replies guys!!
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"I actually have a penis"

"did you know i can touch my brain with my little finger in my nose?"

"wow i had my period yesterday and green goo came out of me as well"

"My dad is here somewhere too. he is always watching me. Did i mention he works for the army?"

*picking your nose, then eating it* while he is trying to pick you up
I actually lol'ed at these ones!! Very funny. I'll try some of them next time.
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I suggest you do the exact same thing - only this time, be a bitch in a nicer way.
"That's really sweet of you, but I have a boyfriend. It was nice meeting you though."
I have tried this one before as well. And you're right, they are kind of needy because they will keep coming back to me and annoying me.
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Shouldn't any, even newish, PUA's be picking up on all the IoD's you'd be giving off? Are you sure some part of you isn't interested and giving off IoI's that make them think they should persist?
Consciously, I am definitely NOT giving off IOIs - when I go out with the girls, I hardly even look at other guys because I know I'm going home to my BF and that excites me. I do however act like I'm having an amazing time, because I am! I love being out with my girls knowing that I am going to see BF later on. And should I really have to censor myself from having fun in order to not attract guys?
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What's worked on me is to just start ignoring me and talking to your friend. Might be polite to say something first, but he's not going stand there for long with you ignoring him... it makes him look bad in front of other targets.
Yeah, I tend to do that. Sometimes he tries to get involved in our conversation and I just ignore him and keep talking to my friend. This technique has worked a couple of times in the past though. What one did was when I ignored him and started talking to my friend, he came up behind me and put his arms around me! That was completely uninvited so I pushed him away and my friend and I walked away.
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"well obviously you're not his tonight", you could just say "I'm not yours either." or when they say "why does he let you go out without him - if you were my girl.." just say "Well it's a good thing I'm not your girl then."
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Where's this happening? Bars and clubs or everyday locations like the grocery store and shit?
Mostly at bars and clubs but there have been a couple of occassions when I have been at cafes and guys have come up and hit on me. Even at work a few times! (I work in customer service)

The weird thing is NO guy will come up to me when I am with my boyfriend. And not because he is really big or anything. I think it's because we give off the aura of a strong connection between us that they can't break - would you guys agree with this? The weird thing is, when I have been out with previous boyfriends or male friends, other guys would still tend to come up and try and hit on me in front of them. Which makes me believe maybe it is the aura my man gives off?
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You could totally destroy these guys, but to be honest its not really fair, these guys could be new to pickup, it may have taken them a weak to finally approach a women and then you totally destory them with the all most unbeakable bitch sheld where you put your back to them and saying go away go away...
Agreed!! I don't want to completely demoralise a guy who is trying and is probably a really cool guy but just chose the wrong girl to flirt with.
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The reason "I have a boyfriend" objection doesnt work, on 99% of guys, is becuase some girls say that when they do not have a boyfreind and (speaking from a male perspective or maby i just have low morals) it gives it that extra edge of fun, to bed a girl with a boyfreind!!
I know this! I have a lot of male friends who are always trying to get with taken girls because it's more of a challenge.
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Just have some fun (you know you wont cheat on your boyfreind) and just use more advanced techniques on him, or just say something like "i have heard all these pua techniques before.... my boyfreind taughty me to watch out for guys like you with their nlp, ect techniques!" unltimatly if you know the techniques it is a waste of his time keep trying the techniques on you....
That's great advice - thank you!!
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you could also do something else, equally powerfull. make him notice that you know your hit on and you know the game. say "yeah i already know that line", or "oh yeah, isn't that what puas call 'the boyfriend destroyer?'". they will feel silly and exposed. they'll think that you already know all the lines and the game, and you force them to apologize and to act normal. chances are that they'll show their deeper self, or even afc-ness, or they just walk away
I'm going to try this - thank you!! And yes, it is EXTREMELY frustrating when I just want to have fun with the girls!

Thanks again for all your replies guys.

It happened on the weekend where this guy would not leave me alone. He kept trying all these different PUA moves (which I knew 100%!) and I continually tried to block his moves - he then started talking to my friend like "is she always like this?" I just kept ignoring him but my friend was drunk and sort of kept talking to him for a bit. She finally caught on and we left but it's ANNOYING!!!

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IMO, if a girl who has a boyfriend voluntarily goes to a bar or a club without her bf, there's some part of her that's open to the idea of cheating. Just let yourself do what feels right rather following what you assume to be right just because everyone else says it is.


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That's kinda silly Chief. Guys go out to the club to get drunk and have a fun a lot. Why couldn't girls do the exact same thing?


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IMO, if a girl who has a boyfriend voluntarily goes to a bar or a club without her bf, there's some part of her that's open to the idea of cheating. Just let yourself do what feels right rather following what you assume to be right just because everyone else says it is.
Really? I don't agree with this at all.

Why am I not allowed to go out and have fun dancing and drinking with my girls? I'm still young. And my boyfriend is always invitied but it is his choice not to come. If I had a boyfriend who wouldn't let me do my own thing then I much prefer to be single.

No matter how much I love my boyfriend, he does not own me and I am still my own person with my own mind, friends and feelings. This does NOT mean I am going to cheat on him.

So even if you had a girlfriend, would you never go out with the boys for a few drinks and to kick back for a bit? If your girlfriend needs to be with you all the time, I think that is way too needy and to be blunt, it would give me the shits really bad if my man was like that.

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That's kinda silly Chief. Guys go out to the club to get drunk and have a fun a lot. Why couldn't girls do the exact same thing?
And thank you Quickdrawyall! Appreciate the support :lol:

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Your whole notion of "I don't want to cheat on my boyfriend" is mostly a logical rationalization and not mainly motivated by intrinsic feelings.

Drinking, dancing, having fun at the club... It's all a form of playing with fire; the fire still draws you. Everything you do there is sexually charged in one form or another (unless you're just sitting at the bar being all grumpy and sending text messages all night). You rationalize this away because you're "above that" and you "love your boyfriend," so natural animalistic urges don't apply to you, right? Actually, they still do. You would still enjoy having sex with men other than your boyfriend, and your body knows that. Your body tells your subconscious mind to do things that are in line with getting laid, but your conscious mind justifies these actions with almost irrelevant reasons.

Note that I'm not being judgmental nor am I accusing you of anything immoral. I'm only telling you what's going on in your body.

Anyone who's ever been in a relationship for a while will have an urge to cheat somewhere down the line. The male moral crusaders who swear on their life that they would never even think about cheating are the ones who can't even get laid in the first place, and they got with their current significant other by sheer luck or arranged marriage. The female ones swear on their life that they would never even think of cheating because they are utterly terrified of the social consequences of being unfaithful.
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Why am I not allowed to go out and have fun dancing and drinking with my girls?
You are allowed to do so. And, IMO, you're also "allowed" to cheat if you so damn well please. You are your own person and you should be able to do what you want. I just think you feel too much shame for having natural urges, and I don't think people should be motivated by fear and shame.


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Wow, Chief. At least you can back up your arguments - I like that.
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Drinking, dancing, having fun at the club... It's all a form of playing with fire; the fire still draws you. Everything you do there is sexually charged in one form or another (unless you're just sitting at the bar being all grumpy and sending text messages all night).
You are completely correct - clubs are extremely sexually charged as the majority of people there are out to pick up. Do you believe a woman with a man by her side will not attract looks from other men?
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You rationalize this away because you're "above that" and you "love your boyfriend," so natural animalistic urges don't apply to you, right? Actually, they still do. You would still enjoy having sex with men other than your boyfriend, and your body knows that. Your body tells your subconscious mind to do things that are in line with getting laid, but your conscious mind justifies these actions with almost irrelevant reasons.
I do accept where you are coming from, but morally I couldn't cheat on my boyfriend and I think if I was to play with fire and get burnt (cheat on him), even my body wouldn't enjoy the feeling of someone who is not him. And emotionally, all I want is him. Of course, the animalistic urges are still there in the back of my mind - I am a human and I do find other men attractive but I believe my morals overpower the urge to jump any attractive male I see because I know the one I have at home is my future as opposed to one lustful night spent with an attractive stranger.
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Note that I'm not being judgmental nor am I accusing you of anything immoral. I'm only telling you what's going on in your body.
Thanks for that - how do you know all this stuff anyway??? :o

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Anyone who's ever been in a relationship for a while will have an urge to cheat somewhere down the line. The male moral crusaders who swear on their life that they would never even think about cheating are the ones who can't even get laid in the first place, and they got with their current significant other by sheer luck or arranged marriage. The female ones swear on their life that they would never even think of cheating because they are utterly terrified of the social consequences of being unfaithful
That is true to an extent. However, another aspect which strongly influences my decision not to cheat on my partner is because of the pain it would cause him. For him to discover I had been unfaithful would tear him apart and I can't bear to live with that guilt for the rest of my life. I also don't want to lose him, because (this is going to sound like such a woman reason) but he is my best friend and I truly see us being together for ever - he will be an amazing husband and father and I want my children to grow up with a loving dad. I also want to grow old with my best friend.
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You are allowed to do so. And, IMO, you're also "allowed" to cheat if you so damn well please. You are your own person and you should be able to do what you want. I just think you feel too much shame for having natural urges, and I don't think people should be motivated by fear and shame.
I'm glad you see it like that. I believe you are correct in your assumption of me feeling too much shame but it mostly because I couldn't live with the guilt of hurting such a great person (as mentioned above)

But thank you for your comments Chief - I do appreciate your feedback and value your opinion. :lol:

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"I have a penis" I know that'd send me running the other way....


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Just say "I have to take a piss" and walk away.


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I'd say your best bet would to be upfront and say you have a boyfriend. If he doesn't believe you, just pull out a picture to show him.

Also, help him get a new girl. Be his wing girl and see if there's any other girls he's into.

Plus, since you go with friends, work out some code with them. If you roll your eyes at them, that means they should go rescue you because he's 100% creepy. If you wink your left eye slowly, that means that this guy's cool and that you're getting ready to wing him over to your friends.

My point is just to be sincere with him. You're not rejecting him as a person, you're rejecting him because you have someone already. If he gives you problems after that, then call security, mace him, etc.


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I'd say your best bet would to be upfront and say you have a boyfriend. If he doesn't believe you, just pull out a picture to show him.
I don't think it's that he doesn't believe me. I think he just doesn't care and sees it as a challenge.
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Also, help him get a new girl. Be his wing girl and see if there's any other girls he's into.
I have done this - I tried to palm this guy off onto one of my (beautiful) friends and it didn't work. I then told him to go dance with this group of hot girls who were out for someone's 21st birthday party. He just kind of ignored them and my suggestion and kept hanging around and negging me with things like "well I much prefer a girl with personality rather than looks"
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Plus, since you go with friends, work out some code with them. If you roll your eyes at them, that means they should go rescue you because he's 100% creepy. If you wink your left eye slowly, that means that this guy's cool and that you're getting ready to wing him over to your friends.
That's a good idea thanks!
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My point is just to be sincere with him. You're not rejecting him as a person, you're rejecting him because you have someone already. If he gives you problems after that, then call security, mace him, etc.
Thanks so much for that! :lol:

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just say to him--did you ever see the film ''The Crying game''--then smile and give him a long wink


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just say to him--did you ever see the film ''The Crying game''--then smile and give him a long wink
??? Explain please!!

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