it is an IOI and a tease... wait too long and she'll loose interest...

on the other hand congrats.. and good luck

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

Lets say that im plannig a bait-hook-reel-release type of tactick.

Sunday night we r going to b alone. Will not b the first time that she ask me for a massage. There ill create some sexual tension (bait), if she complies like did last time (hook) ill pop a kiss, probably a 1 minute french (reel) and then ill tell her that i like it, that there is more to come, but she has to earn it (not with those words, i improvise a lot on situation, but there is a release).

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AHHAAH I agree.

At the end of the day you're going to have to make an important decision. Who is more important.

1- Your friend
2- Her

It seems that you and your friend are a lot closer than acquaintances if hes asking you for advice regarding his gf....

And the way you're talking is really AFC and not alpha at all... This girl is really getting to you with this stuff. My advice would be to take everything she says with a grain of salt and dont let emotions get the best of you.

If you really love this girl then you will wait atleast a few months if not longer to start gaming her. You're also going to have to be honest with your friend and he most likely will not be happy about it.

Well, he is closer to me than i am for him, i find him like the typical guy who can only talk to the point of annoy everybodyelse about himself and himself.

I know im not acting as an AFC, at least thats not the way i see it. Im quite dominant in the situation. I want this girl and im getting her to agree and to want to be with me.

Plus she sees on me the 4 qualities:

- Preselected by other women: Couple of her friends, girls at range from 6 to 9 are trying to get me. She has seen me on action and she knows i really can get girls.
- Leader of men: On friends groups im normally the one who take the desitions about where to go. Im very dominant, when i talk even the other males are more than willing to listen. Specially her "BF", who is always telling to everyone what i have to say is very important always.
- Protector of the loved ones: She has seen me cheering up people who i care for, including her, also i have a daughter, and i have to recognize (even the mother of my daughter says it) that im quite a good father. This point is very important, cause she is a mother also (no, the father is not her "BF")
- Willingness to emote: Im very outgoing, i show how i feel when i feel it and she loves it (told by her straight to me).

I dont think liking someone includes oneitis, actually, my intention with the game is a partner, not going arround f***ing girls who have high ego or showing the world i can do it. I have nothing to show to nobody but me. I had been a quite successful PUA, and right now im an instructor in the zone of spain i live, i teach for free, but only to people who are suffering for discrimination, shyness or loneliness, and they all had get success.

One thing i dont like of the averge PUA, to fall is to have oneitis, to know a once-in-a-lifetime girl is to start going the AFC way. If that is like that, then im an AFC, i don care, but i care for this girl and she cares for me. On top that she is a 8.5 hottie, is the first girl on my life i really feel amazing with her.

If being a PUA means not feeling nothing, then i retire, but i become more human.

None of the books i had read, materials i had study tell that u cannot fall in love. Actually, Mystery confess that is his main goal, and also David Deangelo.

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yEAH FUCK YOUR FRIEND OVER.WELL DONE.

well... their not together anymore, and they are not really friends... so I guess it's cool

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

Yovet,

Dude, from what I see, I disagree with a few people here saying that you are having one-itis problem. If you are just looking for one night stands and having flings, then one-itis may be applicable. But in your case, nope. Nada. No way.

Kudos for recognizing that feelings and emotions are important part of being human, or in any sort of relationships. That sort of mentality is rare to find in many PUAs, except a few mPUAs like Mystery, Style, Gambler or AFCAdam. I trust that you're the kind of guy who will know how to maintain a healthy long-term relationship, not just to get girls to bed them.

For your case, I share the concern of some people here. Partially because I am in similar (ok not so similar, but close) situation, although I am at disadvantage in my case. Anyway, if the guy is not your best buddy or whatever, I don't really think you oughta give much consideration for him. Heck, they are not together anymore.

Not too sure how you will advance but it seems like you are in total control of desired outcome. There is already attraction, chemistry and spark between you two. The only thing I see is mental obstacle - her now ex-boyfriend. You two might be feeling guilty (ok, at least subconsciously) over him and probably that's the only block.

Get rid of it. You're an alpha. Plus technically you are not stealing his girlfriend away. You are just getting into a relationship with a girl whom just broke up with her boyfriend. There is nothing wrong with it, even if he is your friend. He had his fair share of chances for 8 months, and he blew it.

Keep us updated here.

Sfaith and Streetlight, thnks so much for the feedback, is nice to see that some PUAs understand that feelings are important for being a person. Feelings dont make u clingy or an AFC, but the way u handle them. If u get feelings for a girl being an alpha u really can control urself.

Sfaith, u r right, there is a temporal block that is stopping us from starting already, and is the ex. As i sayed in a post before, i offered her to wait and she agreed (i want to control a posdible buyers remorse for a guilty feeling from her), but she calls me EVERYDAY to meet her TWICE AT DAY, one in my lunch time break arround 12:30pm and other after she finished work, arround 11pm.

She really loves to spend time with me, and so do i with her. We laugh and connect in ways unknown to me, but i dont let it affect me or make me loose my cool.

She is getting to the point of hating her ex guts. He is acting like a total 100% certified AFC, giving her lots of problems now.

Im going to take action tonight, if everything goes as planned, ill make her a relaxing light tantric massage to grow the already existing sexual tension between both, and probably ended with making up, but still no sex cause of the possible regrets of hurting the ex. With her i feel i have to take it slow, so ill follow my instinct, after being a PUA seems not to fail, hope it doesnt now either.

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The way I see it is that you know how this is already going to play out. You know that she wants you, you know you want her. All that's left to do is decide whether or not you feel alright about this relationship. You have your own morals, no one else can tell you what to do. If you don't feel that it would be "right" to go for it, then don't do it. The guilt will eat you alive, trust me, i know. If you feel it's fine then go for it.

Best of luck mate.

off course!!!! it's no fun if there's no feelings involved

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

This part I totally agree. It forced me into current position and at disadvantage.

While I agree that "morals" can be subjective, based on what context you are putting them into, I don't think it will be an issue in Yovet's case. He and the girl just don't want to "hurt" any feelings of her ex. And I think for Yovet, that's a quality of an alpha male (I am willing to agree to any disagreement here).

Even if her ex is Yovet's best buddy, fundamentally there is nothing wrong. You see, Yovet is not stealing the girl away. Instead he's merely starting a relationship after she broke up with him. And even the reason of breaking up ain't because of Yovet. So the conscience is pretty clear here.

Again i have to agree with Sfaith.

The reason they broke up is because he is clingy, needy, nose up and self centered. Many times, even in front of me, she is telling him something and he goes "sorry, i didnt listen, i was paying attention to (incomming friend, tv, my image in the mirror)", the one of the mirror is not a joke, happened for real. Also he is 33 years old, but stuck in a mental age of 18, but she, being 26, is showing way much more maturity than him. For her, she have nothing to learn from him and she feels unsafe, he is, defenetly, a major beta. Im not feeling guilty at all, im not the reason for the break up.

She has already confirmed me that she finds me really attractive, and much more inner attraction (not in my best shape right now, broke my right knee, wile recovering grew quite a lot, im 184 and reached 140kg, right now im at 102kg). I share same with her, she is REALLY hot, HB 8.5 with LOTS of AFCs trying to get her, but main thing for me is that i find her an incredible person.

Seems soon we r going to LTR, we kissed yesterday, as planned, and she hugged me real tight wile telling me "u r so important for me right now, im not going to let u go without giving this a try". So, SUCCESS!

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Good call, Yovet. And good luck with your future endeavors with her. I wish I am in your position man.

Update:

I dont regret at all getting her, actually, she is soooo nice.

We are really happy together, and i believe we are starting to fall in love.

Its official, im now in a LTR.

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Good deal dude! I say love is what it's all about. Bro's before hoes??? Not when it comes to love!