dude, chill we are talking about women here not gold bullion, your friend wants her fuck it let him try. If he gets her that is because your game is weak and the better man won. So yeah, stop caring so much.

_________________
Troll the trolls
free book http://www.4shared.com/file/123140320/b ... ndows.html

You're missing the point man.

Forget the chick. Girls are like buses. Miss one, next 15 one comin'. (Gucci Mane).

It's the honor. His GIRLFRIEND was there. He hated on me, DISRESPECTED me (Doesn't matter if it was the hot chick or the bar floozy), and left me to cater to his sobbing "girlfriend" (They're now back together. Such is life).

He is not the better man. I am. I did the work. He just pulled a sneak attack. That, "dude", is called slime. Slimy behavior. If anyone ever does that to me again, I ruin him.

My game isn't weak. I guess, I'm realizing real world events that I was sheltered from when I was younger. I just got a dose of reality. That's all. It hurt, but after reflection, it was a great occurance.

Dude, honestly, from what you typed, I'm sure enough to say you're probably the guy who either:

A)Stole another guy's piece just because

Or

B)Got stolen on.

I'm gonna say A, cause it seems that, from that sentence you typed, to me, you don't give a flying fuck about your "wings", or any other guy you encounter. While you shouldn't care what other people think of YOU, pissing on a code of honor is a far worse crime.

...I don't know. I know you meant well, but the fact that you said it was ok for my friend to take the girl I was working on (leave me stranded in the city after promising me a ride home, AND leaving me to "grenade" his existing GF) sickens me, unless you want to clarify?

I echo your sentiments on guy friends. I've lost two of my best friends in two very shitty situations, and it seems like almost every guy I meet nowadays doesn't need anymore friends, they just need someone call them about parties or bring their girlfriends around to scam on. I've dealt with these people by accepting that role they want to play, and instead of fighting it, I just always become the dominant male when I'm around them. At the end of the night they don't know what I've done, but I've just reversed the role they wanted to put ME in.

Honestly dude, this "friend" needs to disappear from your cell phone address book. Don't hang out with this guy, just don't. He's toxic to you, and while chicks are just chicks, he doesn't respect you in the context of you trying to talk to women. Hell it sounds like he doesn't respect you in any context.

To me, it sounds like you are going through what a lot of guys go through in the early to mid stages of becoming a PUA. Early on different sources tell you it's ok to lie about yourself, to make up stories, to be more of a dick than you ever have in your life. You have to calibrate all this to be congruent with your personality and just evolve. Like I've said before, I don't use canned anything, I don't mistreat women EVER (I do tease mercilessly), and I don't backstab my friends for pussy.

Just keep chugging away at it man. Trust me not every guy is like your douchebag friend, but you may have to look in different places to find quality buddies in your life.

_________________
There's a reason you want to be a PUA, so don't lie to yourself.

You want the 10's.

Breaker

Yep, kinda got that feeling. This is going to take some time, but I guess I gotta go out there.
He's gone, deleted, forgotten in the history of war. May god watch over him, cause I'm done.

I know why he did it. He's jealous of me. He hates how his family life is fucked up, and all my issue was was a case of ADD. Perhaps I could have been a better friend, but in the end, I must rise myself. How could I help him, if he kept coming back to a problem he could not fix? End.

And forward.
One side tells you one thing, the other side says another.

My style is like this:

There's a baker, a banker, and a bouncer. The baker makes the tastiest pastries on the planet. The banker is a Wall Street Wallgod, and owns whatever part of Manhattan Donald Trump doesn't. The bouncer is 295lbs of muscle, and can punch through a car door.

Say I wanted to get advice from these guys. Say I wanted to make a nice lemon cake to impress a girl and make her feel good. Would I go to the baker, the banker, or the bouncer? The baker? Why? Cause the baker knows how to make a tasty fucking cake.

Ok, so what If I wanted to raise some money to buy the bakery? Would I go to the baker, the banker, or the bouncer? The banker. Why? Cause he owns 1/4th a city dominated by the Trump Family.

Finally, say I wanna get super strong to beat the banker who tried to screw me over to a pulp? I'd go to the bouncer, cause he's A FUCKING ANIMAL MOTHER of a bodybuilder.

Of course, I act myself. I gotta, or I lie in life.

I am also glad to see you're a fellow man of honor. Bless your soul.
Thank you. I mean it.

Dude... I was like you (still have ADD and a raging sense of justice)

We grow up with the ideas that the world is bad but that good things come your way if you follow a vertain number of rules.

Right now i'm split between two schools of thoughts.

1) Those "dogs" who disrespected you, literally spat on your value and STILL won the day OFTEN get what's coming to them

PROS : I found that It's generally true... I have yet to see a succesful bastard who isn't suffering from what he did.

CONS : It does leave the after taste of "weakling" in your mouth : If you have to wait for fate to punish those ppl, are you even worth something ?


Second school of thought

2) Why Aren't you a dog if it works ???

PROS : It does work, in the short term. I got laid 3 times in the last two month acting like a guy who takes what he likes and gets rid of what he doesn't

CONS : Appart from the fact that you always pays for it one day (not even necessarily from a religious or moral point of view), Nothing solid is built from that.

If this guy you are so pissed about is REALLY that careless with his friends, he will either get a reputation, or his friends will do the same thing to him (and then there is work life)

If he is just pretending to do this things, maybe he consciously chose this path and accepts willingly the price he will have to pay, he would even apologize to you if he knew how much it shook you.


As for your whole situation, i would advice you to take anti depressants for a small while to experience what a worry free life is.

I'm not much of a pills maniac, but if you are to build yourself a socially acceptable personality (while dealing with ADD) you have to know what regular ppl feel like everyday. Pills are just a quick way to experience that and move on. (the "solving of problem" part will come on its own after you are a bit more relaxed)

Be brave. We're with ya.

Very true, in my opinion. Most of the dogs I see out there picking up girls seem to do one of two things. They either pick up a chick, close her, and then never call back, or they pick up a chick, close her, and start fostering emotions with her to keep her on the booty call chain. The first one doesn't really bother me, but the second does, and guys who do that always create a bad reputation for themselves and end up hurting the target if they aren't being honest.

The way I combat this is by being completely honest with the girl. I've been shocked at how many girls are completely receptive to the fact that although I'm looking for the perfect girl for me, I'm not going to make that decision based on a few weeks of knowing someone, and it will take me a few months before I'm even ready to commit to a long-term, serious anything. Now I can see how she fits into my life with no pressure, no promises, and no lies.
For the above reason. And because it's bad karma. And because it's rude. And because you don't want to be a bad person. Just learn to pick up chicks without doing them wrong, don't sink to the level of these kinds of guys. Way better long term ramifications.

_________________
There's a reason you want to be a PUA, so don't lie to yourself.

You want the 10's.

Breaker

Just work on your game, things will come together.
You will become more confident (not just with women) and that will help you with your inner game.
Maybe try reading up on inner game threads?

btw you should have fucked his woman. Golden opportunity and under the circumstances you were perfectly entitled to.

To fully live honor, you can't retaliate with dishonor, even if you've been dishonored.

I could have, but I didn't. It wouldn't be right, at least to me. The guy's a douchebag, but for me to retaliate douchebag with douchebag...makes ME a douchebag.

I chose the lesser of evils. And I don't mind.
But I see where you came from.

I am stronger than he is. I prevailed. I live. I'm here. And that's that.

Lesson learned: You don't need to be a dog, but regardless, know enough to ensure the dog wont bite when you turn away.