you said from beginning she was always too young so im guessing shes now 18-20? still immature and your both running at different speeds. let her do her thing, stop contacting her. you might have lost her but i think if you give time she is either going to text your or since she your sis best friend you may cross paths. assuming this goes in your favor you need to start over from square one. you probably think she still in her adolescent mindset and she still looks at you the same. her crush is gone so you need to build the attraction and move forward.

Chillburgs advice was good but you were in to deep.

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She's 27, I'm 30. Yes, I'm sure I'll be seeing her out fairly soon actually. My party/club game isn't that tight so I'll try to bring a pretty hot girl with me when I know I'll be running into her. Maybe that will spark some jealosy and get her contacting me again.

you have one-itis. The reason you're bringing a hot pivot to a club should be for picking up women in general, not ' in case I run into my sisters best friend'.

The best thing to do for YOUR sake is to move on and forget about her...if you do happen to run into her, make sure she sees you flirt with other women. Don't go and talk to her, if she comes up to you, sure, but RUN SOME FREAKING GAME on her then make her chase you, start your game from phase one.

but really, this is done, its over, see this as a learning experience and dont feel down. there are 3 billion other women for you.

Good luck my friend.

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Well.. they're right.. you did screw up by not meeting her that day and gaming her. But thats alright. if she's your sister's best friend, then your bound to run into her again..

Its obvious you messed your social frame up, with that cat and mouse texting scenario. Next time you see her, remember, that your the older guy that she has a crush on. she probably already knows your a nice guy, with good intentions, and a good heart, (from years of knowing you and your sister) so no need to be too nice to her. If you know of any stupid, immature things that she used to do when she was younger use it against her. Neg her about it. Make her qualify herself as someone who has become cooler and more mature.

In the middle of the conversation drop this line, "You really seem to have grown into a beautiful intelligent woman, I never saw that side of you. too bad your too close with my sister, cuz i we would so hit it off." that line will do it... after that its just proving to her that you can keep secrets... SO NO MENTIONING ANYTHING YOU've ever done with other girls during your game for that night...



This will definately fix your frame.. in the future, because then your that friend's older brother that knows her so well. rather than dude #343 texting her that night.

I'm still unclear on one thing; by not going to her party didn’t I show that I wasn't needy and that I have other things going on in my life? She did invite me the day of the party and I didn't think it was a good idea to run after her as soon as she snapped her fingers.

The last time we hung out (after I no-showed at her party), she DID give me IOIs. However, I didn't focus enough on creating sexual tension between us and instead focused more on being a fun party guy. Another mistake on my part.

Before all of this mess, I should have just went over when she gave me that booty call no matter how early I had to get up the next morning.

Let me clarify things for you.

At the moment, she KNOWS the real reason why you didn't show up at her party. She fucking KNOWS it. I know what you were thinking...

'By you flaking on her will draw out the same type of reaction it did for you. She'll get jealous. She'll think you're non-needy.' WRONG.

The thing is, when you have NOT demonstrated how fucking cool and out of this world you are... When you have NOT demonstrated that you're man enough to kiss her and lead her.... Because of all these things you have NOT YET DONE, flaking on her has NO effect whatsoever on her.

All you have done is get caught in HER stupid game... The only thing that would have made her start thinking...damn this guy is fucking cool, is if you had actually gone to that party and ran the sickest fucking game on her and SWEPT her off her FUCKING feet.

Read the following thread:

telling-a-girl-about-other-girls-messin ... ght=kasabi

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Thanks for that link. I need to start seeing some other hot girls and thus, demonstrate my high value through ACTION. This may make her jealous and will help me get over my oneitis.

Got it

Im sorry, I dont want to be a dick, but you still haven't got it, you're still dwelling on this girl. Sure you might make her jealous IN THE PROCESS, but getting jealous wont overcome your oneitis. You still talk about demonstrating higher value but you seem like you're doing it FOR HER. Forget her. If she wants you she will come onto you again, but never think about that again until she does. BECAUSE YOU ARE MOVING ON

I wouldn't give up on her JUST yet. The fact that you've previously failed so many of her simple tests yet she still invited you to a party says there might be something still there.


I'd leave it a week then text her something generic like.

'Hey... how's you today?'

If she answers that's good. She still game. If not give it up.


As long as you don't expend more energy on her then you do the rest of your life it shouldn't be an issue.

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I know. This oneitis stuff is a bitch, don't want to let her go.

I don't know if that's a good idea. She might just reply out of obligation and obligation is the opposite of attraction (Vin Dicarlo). She can't ignore me to the point where it's obviously rude because she's my sister's best friend.

She'll contact me if she has any interest.

thats more like it bro! now get out there and game like you never did before!

Ok, I just looked over Vin Dicarlo’s, “Objection Game” again and I think I know exactly where I went wrong/what her objection is. She thinks I'm going to fall in love with her too quickly when all she wants is to hook up or have something casual. BEFORE she invited me to her party, BEFORE we had plans to meet up for drinks, SHE GAVE ME A BOOTY CALL! Why would she give me a booty call right off the bat if she wanted to get into a relationship with me? She wouldn’t. SHE WANTED ME TO BE A HOOKUP/FB/CASUAL THING AND THIS IS ALL I WANTED TOO BEFORE I GOT CAUGHT UP IN HER GAME!!!!

Further evidence of this: I had a conversation with my sister and told her that I didn't want to get into a serious relationship anytime soon. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe this conversation took place shortly before I was invited to the party. Despite my needy actions, my sister probably told her that I didn't want anything serious and this is why she gave me another chance and invited me to her party. Then my dumb ass skipped the party and started acting needy again.

I guess I couldn’t believe that she only wanted something casual with me, given that she used to have a big crush on me. By the way, I should mention that we live on the same street (although I never run into her). I fucked up a perfectly convenient situation! I want what she wants, a no strings attached, convenient, casual thing. How do I let her know this? How do I let her know I'm not going to go falling in love and crowding her?

I got a couple numbers this week and my oneitis has already died down a good bit. I think she's going to text me over the holidays and invite me to do something out of obligation (when she's hanging out with my sister). What if I just texted her back and said, “It’s for the best if we leave it alone, shit would just get awkward.” Would this help me get some power back and then, MAYBE I'll attempt to seduce her down the road when I have some real skill. If anything ever happens, that's how I want it to happen anyway. Even if she gave me another booty call right now and I ran up to her place, there wouldn't be any sexual tension or passion. I want to either seduce her on my own terms like a fucking man, or I don't want anything at all.

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, literally SECONDS after I wrote this she stopped by our house with a few friends and one of her friends invited me to a party tomorrow/Sunday evening (that she will obviously be at) and I can already feel the oneitis coming back. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!

What do you guys think? You think I should go to the party and game her, don't you?

p.s. My sister is still out of town so they weren't stopping by looking for her or anything and this wasn't an obligatory invite.

Read this thread in its entirety from when you began it...

Ask yourself, "Would a cool guy with a fun life go through all this crap with a "little sister's friend" that he know from long ago?" . . . . I mean . . . come on!!! What the hell do you think?

Yup, she thinks the same.

This has nothing to do with one-itis and everything to do with being a boring creepy ass dude who is straegizing this thing for a sheepy little kid like it's a round of dungeons and dragons.

RELAX! You are the OLDER GUY. Act like the OLDER GUY. Do what ever the hell you want to do. Go to the party, piss on the party, go to London for the weekend. Dude, you are the MAN and she is your LITTLE SISTER'S LITTLE bitty, insecure, cute little muffin of a girl. She is ONE little muffin of a girl of THOUSANDS of little muffins of little girls that you can have any day of the week.

I have NO FUCKING IDEA why you would choose to treat her as your OLDER SISTER who just won the miss universe pageant and has a PhD in Physics and is running to be the next president of the the U.N.

She has no idea why you're doing this either.

Run your life as you see fit. Suggest that she should be a part of it. She will JUMP IN. . . so will a bunch of other 20 something year olds . . .