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Punch her in the face, then run before the bouncers get you.

haha jk.

Like the former posters have stated, you either get a blowjob or you get blown out of the set.

Man, look at it this way, if the girl is not worth your time, there's, what, 500 other chicks in the club you can game on?

If she blows you out, or says "fuck you asshole" straight up, you just politely say "thank you for your time *smile*" and leave.

Don't make it look like you got blown out, just act as if you're going to go into another set or your buddy is calling you.

Another good way to build social proof is to wave at nobody when entering/stalking the club. (nobody is going to see who you're waving at)

Don't ever linger on "Why did she do that to me?"

I get blown out of sets all the time, even of sets of people I know.

It happens to ALL of us, there are certain circumstances where even the best PUAs get blown out.

I was gaming this girl I had been talking to for the past week or so (Hottest girl in my school), and I saw her at a football game surrounded by guys (90% of which I knew), and for SOME reason when I tried to enter the set, they turned their backs to me and blew me out.

I kindly, without other people seeing me retracted the set and went back to my friends.

She then saw I wasn't affected and physically called me back and I was in.

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See how not being an asshole helps?

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Also, I would like to add, if she says ONE rude thing to you, shame on her, and you punish her by saying "You know what, you're an asshole, I love you" (Calibrated an IOD with an IOI and made your and her frame resonate with eachother on the same level)

Or, "I eat little shits like you for breakfast -big smile- "

Disarm the situation, be playful.

But if after that, she slaps you, or says "no, fuck off asshole"

Then you kindly say "Ok, thank you for your time" and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE ASAP OMG YOU GOT OWNED.

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Look gentleman we obviously have different views on this i believe he should have tried and plow through to see if its a dead set others believe he should have walked away and been polite in the process and others think he should have told off the bitch. The point is, is that we are all justified and everyone has there own views on this and to me, all that matters is whatever works out for that person. We have beaten the life out of this topic, now I'm glad we all care enough to help this guy out but in the end i feel its whatever works for you. What works for one person may not work for the other. So as long as we understand each other i think this topic has been pretty much talked out i mean everyone gave a lot of good answers ut with everyone having there own opinions its not going to go anywhere.


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Gentleman gets far. If you think gentleman kisses every girls ass, you are wrong. You can be attractive, but also a gentleman.

For example, James Bond. Does he ever need to say "Fuck off" to someone, he gets laid but he still is a gentleman to women.

Dont ya start whining that its a movie, I KNOW THAT ALREADY.
It is a movie. I don't remember girls saying to him to fuck off.


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ye im all for being a gentleman aye, thats the shit james bond hahah


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or you could be a jerk but later be cool, feel me? ye


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Lol, this is the single funniest thread to date on this forum.

Hahahha :)

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if that happens, im just honest and let them know that was rude, then have somewhere to go/something to do IMMEDIATELY.

you could be nicer and say something like "im gonna hit up the fun side of the party then" and go.


in any case, do something right afterward, the worst thing to do is walk 5 ft away and just stand there, being owned


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I think in this situation i genuinely would just ignore it. I would continue working the set till she walked away. Watch Dj Fuji's seminar, 2009 one, im sure he say that you should never leave a set unless it is completely dead i.e she shouts in your face or walks away. Never be rude as it lowers your Social Value. Anyone who says so has still got a bit to learn about the Game.

I guess the reason this is said is because something known as Fundamental Attribution Error where you attribute someones behaviour to a social circumstance rather than a personal one. What i mean is, you think she is acting like a cow because she isnt interested where as she mite just be having a bad night. Lol i know the latter just gives me more reason to stay, cause i would be motivated to make it the best she could possibly want.

Its also because while you are in set you are learning. you have nothing to gain by leaving and everything to gain by staying. You can learn more about yourself and work on your set control.

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I think in this situation i genuinely would just ignore it. I would continue working the set till she walked away. Watch Dj Fuji's seminar, 2009 one, im sure he say that you should never leave a set unless it is completely dead i.e she shouts in your face or walks away. Never be rude as it lowers your Social Value. Anyone who says so has still got a bit to learn about the Game.

I guess the reason this is said is because something known as Fundamental Attribution Error where you attribute someones behaviour to a social circumstance rather than a personal one. What i mean is, you think she is acting like a cow because she isnt interested where as she mite just be having a bad night. Lol i know the latter just gives me more reason to stay, cause i would be motivated to make it the best she could possibly want.

Its also because while you are in set you are learning. you have nothing to gain by leaving and everything to gain by staying. You can learn more about yourself and work on your set control.

Regards, Saint
Well, it also boils down to showing care.

The more you "care" or "react" the lower your value.

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I think in this situation i genuinely would just ignore it. I would continue working the set till she walked away. Watch Dj Fuji's seminar, 2009 one, im sure he say that you should never leave a set unless it is completely dead i.e she shouts in your face or walks away. Never be rude as it lowers your Social Value. Anyone who says so has still got a bit to learn about the Game.

I guess the reason this is said is because something known as Fundamental Attribution Error where you attribute someones behaviour to a social circumstance rather than a personal one. What i mean is, you think she is acting like a cow because she isnt interested where as she mite just be having a bad night. Lol i know the latter just gives me more reason to stay, cause i would be motivated to make it the best she could possibly want.

Its also because while you are in set you are learning. you have nothing to gain by leaving and everything to gain by staying. You can learn more about yourself and work on your set control.

Regards, Saint
Having a bad day doesn't justify anyone to behave like an assh*le. A woman can tell in a nice way "Please, not today." or whatever. If a girl likes me but I don't like her, I send her away in a very friendly way. Never in my life I have been rude to a girl that was interested in me. I always tried to get rid of those girls in an educated way, no matter how bad I felt.

I know that for example Mystery promotes to leave the set with a smile and a "Thank you for your time.". I read a lot about Mystery and other people and a lot of the things they say seem reasonable to me. But the 'always be polite' part is the only part I disagree with. You don't have to be polite to someone that doesn't respect you. Being polite to someone that insults you is a DLV, from my point of view. Just watch those movies where the nerd tries to hit on the HB10 but she insults him and tells him to get lost. If the nerd moves away while being polite, the girls even laugh more at the nerd. The nerd's value is non-existent because he should have stand up for himself. According to me an alpha male will never tolerate to be insulted while he never did anything wrong to anyone.

I can come up with several experiences from myself and friends in which a girl behaved like a total b*tch and by insulting her back her respect increased or she even got attracted. Can you think of 1 example in which you ejected politely after an insult in which they respected you or got attracted to you ? I am 100 % sure the answer to that question would be NO.


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I think in this situation i genuinely would just ignore it. I would continue working the set till she walked away. Watch Dj Fuji's seminar, 2009 one, im sure he say that you should never leave a set unless it is completely dead i.e she shouts in your face or walks away. Never be rude as it lowers your Social Value. Anyone who says so has still got a bit to learn about the Game.

I guess the reason this is said is because something known as Fundamental Attribution Error where you attribute someones behaviour to a social circumstance rather than a personal one. What i mean is, you think she is acting like a cow because she isnt interested where as she mite just be having a bad night. Lol i know the latter just gives me more reason to stay, cause i would be motivated to make it the best she could possibly want.

Its also because while you are in set you are learning. you have nothing to gain by leaving and everything to gain by staying. You can learn more about yourself and work on your set control.

Regards, Saint
Having a bad day doesn't justify anyone to behave like an assh*le. A woman can tell in a nice way "Please, not today." or whatever. If a girl likes me but I don't like her, I send her away in a very friendly way. Never in my life I have been rude to a girl that was interested in me. I always tried to get rid of those girls in an educated way, no matter how bad I felt.

I know that for example Mystery promotes to leave the set with a smile and a "Thank you for your time.". I read a lot about Mystery and other people and a lot of the things they say seem reasonable to me. But the 'always be polite' part is the only part I disagree with. You don't have to be polite to someone that doesn't respect you. Being polite to someone that insults you is a DLV, from my point of view. Just watch those movies where the nerd tries to hit on the HB10 but she insults him and tells him to get lost. If the nerd moves away while being polite, the girls even laugh more at the nerd. The nerd's value is non-existent because he should have stand up for himself. According to me an alpha male will never tolerate to be insulted while he never did anything wrong to anyone.

I can come up with several experiences from myself and friends in which a girl behaved like a total b*tch and by insulting her back her respect increased or she even got attracted. Can you think of 1 example in which you ejected politely after an insult in which they respected you or got attracted to you ? I am 100 % sure the answer to that question would be NO.
Well, not exactly.

Mystery says to be polite and eject a set IF you get COMPLETELY blown out.

Actually, he states that if a girl says "Fuck you asshole" or something, you say "you know what, I've eaten girls like you for breakfast -smile-, so how was your day?"

Etc

Or, neg wars back and forth and on the 3rd neg you say "You're an asshole, I love you -big hug-"

Etc

Risky, I admit, but better than just leaving the set and not knowing.

Now, if she says "No, fuck you" or escalates it higher, you eject.

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Having a bad day doesn't justify anyone to behave like an assh*le. A woman can tell in a nice way "Please, not today." or whatever. If a girl likes me but I don't like her, I send her away in a very friendly way. Never in my life I have been rude to a girl that was interested in me. I always tried to get rid of those girls in an educated way, no matter how bad I felt.

I know that for example Mystery promotes to leave the set with a smile and a "Thank you for your time.". I read a lot about Mystery and other people and a lot of the things they say seem reasonable to me. But the 'always be polite' part is the only part I disagree with. You don't have to be polite to someone that doesn't respect you. Being polite to someone that insults you is a DLV, from my point of view. Just watch those movies where the nerd tries to hit on the HB10 but she insults him and tells him to get lost. If the nerd moves away while being polite, the girls even laugh more at the nerd. The nerd's value is non-existent because he should have stand up for himself. According to me an alpha male will never tolerate to be insulted while he never did anything wrong to anyone.

I can come up with several experiences from myself and friends in which a girl behaved like a total b*tch and by insulting her back her respect increased or she even got attracted. Can you think of 1 example in which you ejected politely after an insult in which they respected you or got attracted to you ? I am 100 % sure the answer to that question would be NO.
Sorry buddy i think you missed what i was trying to say my bad. Behaving like an asshole is very rarely justifyed. And thus im not goint to justify it with any form of responce. My post was basicaly outlining that when you are in set and one of the girls is behaving like a bitch you ignore what she has said. You keep your frame.

By giving bitchy girls a response you are validating her bitchy remarks. I would ingnore them act like she hadnt even opened her mouth better yet freeze her out. In this way if you manage to keep building social proof and getting her friends to like you, she will want to be a part of it. At this point your in total control as she now wants to validate herself in your eyes.

In answer to your question at the end of your post No ive never gained attraction after politely ejecting from a set. However i will very rarely do so. The only occation which i would, would be when i was no longer interested (Which will take alot). I just dont see how acting like a prick will do you any favours. Id act like i wasnt phased which gives you an air of confidence and higher social value, as i simply dont care what a bitch has to say.

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Having a bad day doesn't justify anyone to behave like an assh*le. A woman can tell in a nice way "Please, not today." or whatever. If a girl likes me but I don't like her, I send her away in a very friendly way. Never in my life I have been rude to a girl that was interested in me. I always tried to get rid of those girls in an educated way, no matter how bad I felt.

I know that for example Mystery promotes to leave the set with a smile and a "Thank you for your time.". I read a lot about Mystery and other people and a lot of the things they say seem reasonable to me. But the 'always be polite' part is the only part I disagree with. You don't have to be polite to someone that doesn't respect you. Being polite to someone that insults you is a DLV, from my point of view. Just watch those movies where the nerd tries to hit on the HB10 but she insults him and tells him to get lost. If the nerd moves away while being polite, the girls even laugh more at the nerd. The nerd's value is non-existent because he should have stand up for himself. According to me an alpha male will never tolerate to be insulted while he never did anything wrong to anyone.

I can come up with several experiences from myself and friends in which a girl behaved like a total b*tch and by insulting her back her respect increased or she even got attracted. Can you think of 1 example in which you ejected politely after an insult in which they respected you or got attracted to you ? I am 100 % sure the answer to that question would be NO.
Sorry buddy i think you missed what i was trying to say my bad. Behaving like an asshole is very rarely justifyed. And thus im not goint to justify it with any form of responce. My post was basicaly outlining that when you are in set and one of the girls is behaving like a bitch you ignore what she has said. You keep your frame.

By giving bitchy girls a response you are validating her bitchy remarks. I would ingnore them act like she hadnt even opened her mouth better yet freeze her out. In this way if you manage to keep building social proof and getting her friends to like you, she will want to be a part of it. At this point your in total control as she now wants to validate herself in your eyes.

In answer to your question at the end of your post No ive never gained attraction after politely ejecting from a set. However i will very rarely do so. The only occation which i would, would be when i was no longer interested (Which will take alot). I just dont see how acting like a prick will do you any favours. Id act like i wasnt phased which gives you an air of confidence and higher social value, as i simply dont care what a bitch has to say.

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A simple way to remember not to be bitchy is to respond as if she's just playing around.

If a friend said "Wow you're an asshole" how would you respond? Treat her like your friend.

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I thought I'd chip into this thread and add my opinion.

Is it wrong to put up with shit from women? YES.

Should you be bad or abusive back to them? NO

Either walk away or take them to task on their rudeness. I listened to a David de Angelo seminar audio and one of the guest speakers (Orion?) had an excellent comeback when faced with plain rudeness it went something like "Where I was raised mothers prided themselves on raising children with manners and respect. I'm sorry your mother did not spend the time to do that with you"

Watch this clip from the 6.30 minute mark, it's relevant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEg5imZqdwo


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