Well obviously I will, within the next day or so. And why shouldn't I make light of the situation, the whole point of me posting this is to help the pickup community. If you were drugged, and knew you could help prevent it in the future by telling others about your experience WOULD YOU?

Agreed. Let's stop harrassing, he's obviously aware the severity of the situation, HENCE why he's posting here and pointing it out to keep people aware. Perhaps this shit is a new thing that is gonna start popping up around the country and you've got someone here to thank for sharing what he's been through.

This has given me pause, so don't think I just breezed past this, I totally think this is some serious stuff and you're not attention whoring, but you can understand those sorts of suspicions from people. I think you shouldn't just brush this off though, because something went on there, there was a reason WHY they did this and they were attempting to achieve a certain purpose. Ask them what happened, from what I read, they weren't being overly malicious and they were probably more than a little scared too.

Seriously figure out what was going on there, because these are the sorts of things I see in lots of people that end up scarring them left uncared for. I'd view this in much larger terms than just as far as the PUA community, but think about the people involved in the situation. Everyone else is all concerned with STD's but I'm honestly much more worried about what would make a person do that to another person and where they're headed if no one pays attention. Let's be people before PUA's, please?

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To let you know how serious I think this is diesel, I've brought the topic up with the guy that I consider my personal conscience and better judgement much of the time. Even when we dissagree, talking to him helps me hammer out the issues I'm working on.

He immediately jumped on the "that's date rape!" wagon, which I understand, hell I did it at first too. But I'm a student of psychology first and foremost; I stepped back and I hope everyone else can as well. As I said to him,

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I'm the guy Rye is talking about earlier. I still contend that if the gender roles were reversed, the guy giving the girl drugs would be in some deep, dark nastiness. It's a blackout situation, who knows what could have happened, you know?

That being said, if I were personally in the situation, I like to think I'd have woken up and laughed. If you had the presence of mind or the appropriate headspace to sit up in bed and ask for more of the pills, I bet you'd score mad points. Probably get a comforted laugh from her at minimum. I can only imagine how terrified she must have been at waking up and realizing what she'd done.

I definitely see why you reacted as you did, diesel, and I can't deny that your response might have been mine as well. You at least acknowledge that your behaviour was somewhat irrational, but you were waking up with a drug hangover too. You lived. You learned. Sounds like one hell of a night.

Fascinating story. Thank you for sharing. And to Rye, for pointing me at this thread.

Thank you Rye Lee! I understand that everyone is concerned about STD's I understand the suspicions, I dont even believe it yet! All I want out of this post is for the PUA community to realize that these things happen Just raise awareness. Like I said, I have NEVER seen this addressed in the PUA community or anywhere else. Unless the girls are raped, then its a Federal case.

I should note, that I will be visiting a doctor tomorrow, getting an STD test, for the 3 girls and myself. I have a family friend who is an attorney, I will talk to her too.

My next post will be after my doctors consultation, I will ask him what to do if you are drugged.

To help ANYONE in this position in the future, I want to post a "What if I'm drugged?" manual to give some advice as of to what you can do if you are ever unfortunate enough to be in that position. I'm sure that the doctor will just say "call 911..." or something

also i thought itd be good to add to it. its not just girls who do the drugging/raping. true story- one of my good friends' buddy goes down town for some clubbing and gets plastered while hes out. he goes out for a smoke break and a group of guys take him to an alley and gang rape the poor bastard. just thought i might throw it out there to be a little cautious around other in general and not just girls.

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so you are trying to tell us that 3 hot, young women, two of them are 8's on the hotness scale and the other one a 7.5 needed to drug you to get you to do a foursome?

really?

who are you? bradd pitt?

all they had to do was ask LOL. hot girls have a problem finding handsome guys to have sex with them? nah. men are horny 24/7, hot girls get hit on everywhere they go.

i dont believe your story there, buddy.

Well if you'd listened to the whole discussion that I just set forth, then this would be perfectly clear to you, as we've already resolved this issue. He's not bullshitting you, something fucked up happened and some girls drugged him for an as-yet-undetermined reason. This is serious stuff that happens in the world of people and if you constantly ridicule others eventually you'll find yourself in a crappy situation such as this (or perhaps being gang raped in an alley as another instance was mentioned in this very thread) and then you'll be trying to warn people.

Grow the fuck up. You came here to learn tools that make you better man and to actualize your goals with women as well as hopefully other areas of your life. That involves becoming an adult and aware of the reality of the world we live in; it isn't always pretty, it can be a hard cruel world and there are things out there that would make your stomach turn inside out if you knew the truth of them. You wanna be a fucking man, then you're gonna have to be able to look around and see this world and understand how you fit in.

Have some respect and courtesy for your fellow human beings. That's PRECISELY the reason why this thread was started and why I'm gonna add it to the "worthwhile threads" sticky. Diesel went through something crappy and instead of hiding it, keeping it quiet and trying to spin it one way or the other, he presented the situation as it happened in order to warn others of the dangers out there. I think that takes a lot of courage. I've gone through a lot of stuff on my journey and there's some things I keep as priveleged info for just my inner circle; even though it may help others, I don't want to expose my own personal moraly questionable dilemas. Appreciate what this guy is trying to do for you, because he isn't asking anything of you, he isn't trying to "get" something from you, or trick you into thinking he's some crazy player; he's attempting to warn you of a danger.

Seriously, I'm getting kinda tired of people running around the forum giving guys crap for sharing their lives, because they don't have the worldly experience to realise these situations are perfectly plausable. The reason why we're here is to share our experiences and grow from each other, so let's do that instead of being antagonistic, shall we?

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Funny, I was thinking that about you. Quite sensitive are you now? Haha.
You don't know the man in real life. This is the internet. People say crazy things for laughs. This is serious stuff that happens in the real world. You cannot sit there with 100% certainty and say it is true. You gave your opinion and I gave mine. The world isn't over and you can put your panties back in your skirt.
I find your innocence absolutely hilarious. Do you know me? Your arrogance, assumptive-attitude, and preachy speech about the world to a total stranger leads me to believe you have never learned how to gauge your audience. Never assume things about people is one of the first things I can teach you. If you aren't sure, ask.
Skepticism does not equate to a lack of respect and courtesy for 'my fellow human beings'. Once again, more preachy assumptive speech. Sad.

Of course date rape is plausible. You spelled it wrong, by the way. That means it's true? Because it's plausible? You can believe it's true. No problem. That doesn't mean every poster on this forum has to take it as fact. All I did was post my skepticism and you go off on a pissy moany rant.

And the REAL reason why 'we are here' is because men are horny and they want to learn how to get laid.

By the by, you want to talk about what it is to be a real man?

Real men don't lie and manipulate women to get sex. I am not knocking the Game, I am for it because I think single men and single women should have fun together.

But don't kid yourself. You are a con-artist, a deceptive, dishonest, manipulative man when you use these methods on women. That is not 'learning how to be a man'.

A real man is masculine and honest and doesn't have to lie and make crap up to get a girlfriend. As far as picking women up, you aren't going to pick up any intelligent, classy women. You pick up dumb sluts that fall for this act and are easy to get into bed.

P.S. I am happily married (real love), I am only here because I love to learn all things.

Let me guess your next move - you are going to ban me from the forums. That's what your 'type' do. You are a slave to your body - slave to your lust for women, slave to your emotions like anger than control your actions

It would be mine after you insulted one of the most respected members of the forum.........

A real alpha male sees everyone as equals duderino.

You are just an angry nerd .

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"A real alpha male sees everyone as equals duderino."

from where did you get that?

man, I swear all this "alpha" idolizing is gonna end up on a lot of gays in the future...

I think you are probably good bro.

As long as you have your wallet, phone, internal organs and your asshole doesn't hurt... Your ok. Its not like they can dump a bucket of aids on you. I doubt your cock would have been hard enough for them to do anything anyway. Unless they all took turns riding your face... Did your upper lip smell like catfish when you first woke up?

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What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

doesnt that defy the purpose and everything the alphamale stands for?

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