hi buddy

I think this forum, and pickup in general, is confusing you more than helping you. when meeting a girl, your mind is so occupied with "technique" that you are disregarding "socially acceptable" manners....you are just spitting out random things you heard on forums.

my suggestion to you is to take a break from "pick up" for a month. go out there and meet girls but just be yourself. forget escalation, forget kino, forget being mysterious. Just use your common sense for a month.

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I have not failed 10,000 times. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. - Edison

In nightgame, you can go balls out. Physical escalation, venue bounces, leading by being loud and with a commanding voice. The main reason you can escalate here, is because your intent is to get a make out, or a same night lay. Another thing, in nightgame a girls ASD is on, and you have to plow through resistances to get anywhere. Also, of all the guys who goes to clubs and bars... most of them wants to pick up a girl and will also try to.

Daygame however... is different. If you cold approach with direct game during the day... you are already set apart from 90% of all the men in the world. Firstly, it takes huge amount of balls to approach during the day. Secondly, girls don't expect to be hit on during the day (their ASD is temporarily off). Thirdly, you reach the hook point way earlier in the set than in night game, because there's no other competition. UNLESS she has a boyfriend.

Now you see my friend, daygame (done correctly) does the following... it's direct, it shows you're confident and it shows you're different from most guys. THAT is why escalation during daygame is not needed unless your intent is to fuck her in an alleyway 10 min after meeting her.

This forum is probably 90% nightgame and 10% daygame. Fortunately, I'm lucky enough to know how both social instances work.

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"Everything you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" - Gandhi

Of course you are. Just like normal people. But you can't tell, why.

Interesting. Today though I experienced this dialogue:

She is at the bicycle stand(I did not touch her once)
Me: Hi! You look spanish.
She: Smiles, I am actually french.
Me: <Talk about what makes me think she was spanish>
Me: You know what, I just define that you are spanish.
Me: What are your plans for today?
She: I have to meet up with some friends in a few minutes. I really have to go. *leaves with a smile*
Me: Ok.

What I often get is the smile but also no sexual interest of any kind. It is the "oh nice you could make it here in time let's talk about buying shoes and putting on makeup" smile and not the "Damn I need your cock right in my mouth"-smile.

How much "attraction" should I assume for it to be "on" in daygame?

PS: Please don't call me friend. Thanks.

What do you mean? Do you want me to disclose my sex life to you on a forum? because thats not going to happen friend.
Yet again, ignoring the fact that girls you seem to try to pickup during daygame WANT TO LEAVE. Sorry friend, your game is way off and you have issues. Resolve them my friend.

Okay well done for actually going out and doing daygame approaches. You can only improve from here.

Here is my interaction to with an American girl (at an Cape Town train station) today.

She was standing alone.
Me: Hello, can I tell you something? It's going to be a bit cheeky (smiling, keeping eye contact)
Her: (smiling) Yeah sure!
Me: I noticed you from over there, I just want to tell you, you look really nice! So I had to come over and say "hi"
Her: (giggling) Hello!
Me: Let me guess... you have European accent... French?
Her: Actually American!
Me: (quizzical look) Really? I'm a bit dissapointed now... (pause)
Her: How come? Don't you like Americans?

etc etc etc (I got her phone number and set up a day 2 for Saturday)

Don't attack me. Just notice the differences between your style, and my style

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"Everything you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" - Gandhi

I don't attack you. What you write is more or less how my conversations go. But you stopped prematurely, the important part that leads to her number is missing. How do you figure out if she isn't interested?

Well we continued the conversation and I asked her if she's been up Lion's Head (famous hiking trail in Cape Town) she said no. I told her I'm going with a group up there to see the sunset and invited her along. She said okay sounds great, and then I took her number and continued the conversation afterwards.

Also... If a girl is investing in you (smiling, staying in the conversation, asking you questions...) then she is interested in seeing you again.

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"Everything you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" - Gandhi

Personally I never "try to figure out" as inner game wise it'll place her above you.

You'll know if she's interested if she gives you her number/agrees to meetup. The way to get her interested in you is to be interesting.

what hugge is saying is, your making it to logical with the word weird. girls either know whats up or they get curious and try to find out. theirs no excitement no way for a vibe to exist thats why weird isnt needed