I would go to a different party...

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Agreed... Would make for some awkward times..

JESUS CHRIST! ok well, I went out with her 2 days ago, she told my friend that she's still confused, because I treated her badly....called her work bad? but I always did it in a joking way.. as far as physical goes she treats my guy friend completely differently than me....shes more serious with me always has been, even before all this shit happened. so we cam back to mine and we were just sat down and she told me to do hypnosis on her, so I did, she was surprised as to my ability to tell her about herself...

I think there is a middle man, her best friend who she is constantly texting and reporting every little shit thats going on....and this friend of hers apparently has allot of experience...and from what I can accumulate "He says this to every girl" "he's just bullshitting you to try and fuck you"

She found out today about a fling I had with this other chick a week after what happened, her reaction was...plain as daylight. I'm friend-zoned, but Im not in that deep hole that is unclimable, I can tell this simply by how she treats me and the other guy friend (who has a girlfriend, not that it matters but she set him up with her) and me.

I now have 2 choices:
1, befriend her, act like nothing ever happened, when she comes to mine and its just the 2 of us, I can make something happen, If there is one thing I do know....most of my friends long term relationships sprouted from "friends" who were confused about their feelings and just a bit more physical.

2, Never speak to her again, which is painful as fuck but surely manageable I guess.

I also am sure she has only been in one relationship and the guy fucked her over and she is scared of another relationship unless she knows the person for a long time.

Some space will do you some good. Right now you're enmeshed emotionally and as a result aren't thinking clearly.

"I'm no AFC but I want this one girl so bad"
^This is a paradox.

Dude... You didn't do anything sexual with her except for trying to kiss her. Which failed most possibly because it was too late. You totally behaved like an AFC. How the hell did you think this would turn out?

If you're in the friend-zone, there are two ways out. One that the community taught me, and one that I know from personal experience. The first is the old-school leave her for good, give her and yourself space, date other women, then retry later. The second is to build a sexuality in your interactions gradually, and then at some point the amount of sexuality will start to get awkward. That is the exact time you should go for the kiss.

Now both of these methods require some time, and the second will most likely work only with girls who don't have much dates. So don't tell me you're not an AFC because you completely acted like one. You were impatient, frustrated, outcome dependant, and needy. You fell madly in love with a woman before even kissing her, and that's just AFC.

You must work on your inner game before you can pull this chick. At least, that's how I see it, given the information.

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I know how you feel, i been in the same situation. Do not be sad, but: you cannot turn her on. I dont think you are in friendzone, you are maybe even in a worse situation. You are her emotional tampon, she is using you as friend, to flirt, to discuss with(you are filling her needs without sexual interaction, she is reserved to another guy). You are not a friend, you are not attractive enough, you are just in the middle and she makes sure you stay there. Your value is less then a avg. friend or avg. guy she finds attractive in her network, because she is certian about them.

Instead, dont try. If you won a friend, go bang her friends and girls from her network(be tactical). If you could be real friends, you would get social value and it helps alot when you game new girls. Otherwise, sorry to say, but its very hard to turn this(it requires solid game and luck).

When we say move on, game new girls, we actually mean it, because thats the best option.

Good luck.

This sounds similarly to a situation that put me in this forum.

My advice is to jump ship. This situation sounds like it's capsizing real fast. I'm not one to give up so easily but in this case taking a cooldown to all this will let you plan your next move, after all you claim to not be an AFC. Your plan of attack should differentiate, and if it isn't working, then you'd best make her into a friend, female wingmen are hard to come by and when they do they improve your game by breaking through a few bitch shields, and evading/conquering shit tests along the way.

Go not going makes you look beta as she will expect that your still not over her and yes GET WITH OTHER GIRLS, show this chick that she is not the center of your world and you can get girls whenever you want.

So I went out, everything went normal but It hurts again.....I guess over summer I should be able to get over her, any tips for next years game? Im in university btw.

Talk to many girls, have many options.

No women is your boss !!!
Remember this !

If she makes you cry, then forget about her, delete her numbers, delete her on Facebook, the only time you should care and be upset, is if your children are involved, then its a different matter.

1. Do yourself a favor and get this, "I am no afc" fantasy out of your head. If you're not an AFC, why are you here? Why bother as with this post? This mentality will impede your progress. Same with "I know how this works..." - No you don't.

2. "I've gamed other girls..." - No you haven't. The problem with framing yourself this way is that you'll get poor advice. Some might actually think you have an ability to go up to a stranger, introduce yourself, and eventually fuck her. This is why you are reading, "Go game girls" in your thread. You haven't responded well to this advice because it's useless to you. It's like telling a person who can't swim, "Go swim 50 laps.."

Do you want to start from a clean slate and tell us exactly what's going on or do you want to continue the charade as if you're chatting with your virgin dorm mates over a stag beer party, "Oh yeah, I game chicks all the time!!!" - Because ^this, will only get you this:
^Good advice but has very little to do with where you are now.

dude you fucked up in the begining. you just met her and you were really interested in her. thats weak.

I think I confused people, completely. I said I am no afc....I am no AFC. I game other girls?> yes I do game other girls and have had allot of sex in the past 2 years. The reason I fucked up is because I went completely in the other direction, I didn't game her, I didn't flirt with her. I fucked up because I wanted it to be honest and sincere. I do regret not gaming her, I really do and I know this is oneitis or whatever the fuck the term is.

She was on my mind all the time and I was blinded, I fucked up. I know the position I am in now, complete friend zone, I saw her the other day, behaved completely normally but even now she treets me more seriously then the other guys friends that are there, the lingering hope is what's killing me and that same hope brought me here, only to confirm all my doubts. It still hurts and I cant game other girls because she's still on my fucking mind.

Nice clarification. So. . .

1. You're a pua who knows the 'game' and games women often.
2. You have not gamed this girl. This is why you f'd up.

So the solution would be to do what you didn't do: Go game the girl. Good luck.