No i mentioned that the best thing to do is be decisive and in control, " we're getting dinner on saturday. Wear something nice " is the best answer. I don't think you should apologize for that.

Only if your worried that you will seem like you have mood swings then you can apologize so you dont look like a psycho "sorry about that, wasn't trying to be one of those annoying guys. we're getting dinner on saturday. Wear something nice "

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Well do you think it seems like i have mood swings? haha. I really do want to apologize though so i dont come off as a psycho. lol. thanks bro.

This is one of the e-mails i have saved

"Na its not even cuz ur busy or whatever it is...i just feel like im always texting you and im always the one trying to talk to you...lol"

Dude comon man.. you need to stop worrying about what she thinks of you or what anyone else thinks of you...

Is that a message that you sent? That's a bad sign if your the one who is always trying to talk to her. Adopt a mentality of "Hey this girl seems cool enough, ima hang out with her to get to know her more and see what she has to offer."

If shes not into you, try to find out why. where you made the mistakes and learn from that. But stop worrying about bothering her (unless your like calling/texting her every day, then cut that crap out) give her space and some time to miss you. dont be all over her nuts

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It is not a message i sent. Just a draft.

so which message should i send? I havent sent her a thing after she said i was annoying for what i said.

Also, how do i subscribe or whatever to your website?


okay well this is crazy, i just send her the email.

it said

"Well sorry about that, wasnt trying to be one of those annoying guys. We are getting dinner on saturday.
Wear something nice "


LOL...EDIT: she said "Ok. I don't have anything nice to wear. Lol."

PERFECT!! That's exactly the type of reply I was expecting you to get... You just turned the tables brother, now she's going to be trying to impress you.

At this point either turn it up a notch by saying something like "Wear some heels, I like heels. With some tight jeans and a cute top."

Or be fun and playful "Wear some purple granny panties, they're hot. "

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Haha i almost wanted to go with your other comment. You think it'd be fine to neg her? (or can you tell me if this is a neg?)



"What? Nothing nice to wear?! Erm....you might have to go back to the bottom of the waiting list now...."


Or is that rude?

That's pretty good, but I think the other ones are better (the first one is best, because it creates a bit of sexual tension and anticipation like when your nervous). You don't really want to neg her right now (she just kinda neged herself)

Have you seen in the movies (mostly romantic comedies) where the chick is about to go on a date with a smokin hot guy and they start to freak out and tell their girlfriends about it, and about how they don't have anything to wear??? That's kinda were she's at right now...

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That's pretty good, but I think the other ones are better (the first one is best, because it creates a bit of sexual tension and anticipation like when your nervous). You don't really want to neg her right now (she just kinda neged herself)

Have you seen in the movies (mostly romantic comedies) where the chick is about to go on a date with a smokin hot guy and they start to freak out and tell their girlfriends about it, and about how they don't have anything to wear??? That's kinda were she's at right now...[/quote]


oh whaaat...so that's what you mean by how i "turned the tables"

haha....so tight jeans and nice top it is... ill let u know her reply.

I have deleted her number so the only way i can contact her is thru email, and she gets off in 20 minutes. so i will let you know her reply..


and my reasoning for deleting her number? So i cant initiate conversations all the time

Like I told you, this girl isn't really interested, just using you. If she was interested in you she would be making an effort to wear something nice. "I don't have anything nice to wear..." She's not accepting your frame AT ALL. She's NOT INTERESTED. MOVE ON.

Not everything is a shit test!

Most guys are over sensitive to what they perceive to be shit tests. Sometime its not a shit test and just a logistics problem...If a girl says she doesn't have a lot of time and she has a genuine reason for it, don't punish her for it! lol solve the logistical problem and lead.

For example:

You: Lets go for drinks this saturday
Her: I want to but I'm so busy with school right now! and I don't have a car
You: No problem thats awesome that you are so focused on school! I think its really important! I'll tell you what lets go for drink next week when school is not so crazy, you buy me cocktail, and I'll pick you up seeing as I have a car
Her: That sounds great!

or

Her: This semester is to busy for me! I can't

If she says something like this then you went wrong some where and did not build enough value and or attraction. She is thinking "He's a nice guy" friends zoned!

9 times out of 10 if she has a valid reason to not hang out its a logistical problem and since you are the man she expects you to solve it...if you have already slept with her then that's a different story but if you have not then of course she is going to put school or work ahead of you.

wow, so i told her the "heels" comment and she said

"um.. no hahah"

First of all is she the type that doesn't wear heels? Like the tomboy type? If she is then that's cool let it slide.

Otherwise, here's the deal. All the new stuff you have been saying is on point. However to her it's not congruent because of your noobish ways earlier. This could just be a test. So what I would do in this case is say something like:

"Ok no prob, never mind then "

She is not going to expect that. She's not complying, which isn't a good sign so you got to freeze her out for a bit. Send that message, then talk to her a bit later. Game her some more then ask her out again.

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She does wear heels and she wears like tight dresses when she goes out with her friends n shit....

but alright ill email her that in the morning, i dont have her number (deleted it lol)

although i have asked her to wear heels before because i wanted to see if she is as tall as me in heels. she said no.

Damn, so she hasn't complied to that twice!? Definitely send that and freeze her out for a bit.

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yeah bro....shes probably just not into me...
(or any of the days leading up to saturday)

instead of saying forget it, should i just not hit her up on saturday? (or any of the days leading up to saturday)