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I'm sorry. I wasn't upset. I just wahhhh ...wahhhhh wahhh wahh ;( mommyyy...
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Success Occurs when opportunity meets preparation

1.) Always have a plan; it gives you power what will happen.

2.) If you want what other people don't have you; you must be willing to do what other people won't do.

3.) A good conversation is all about the emotion it evokes in the girl and that comes from how you surgically place your words and how you deliver them. I don't worry about negging or supplicating or any of that. All I go by is how the girl feels; I read her emotions. I read how her words sound when they come out of her mouth. If she feels good around me I am doing good if she feels bad then its going bad. My objective is always to get the girl in really pleasant state then i do this consistently then she falls for me. This is simple as pie. Some guys encourage being aloof and unavailable; I am always available. I feel like the more i talk to a girl and its pleasant everytime....its like getting her hooked on a drug( I am human crack in the flesh). The more she talks to me the more she is going to want to talk to me.

4.) Don't sweat the boyfriend commit. This dime gave me her number once and told me she had a boyfriend when she gave it to me. When she did it it kinda threw me off because we were texting and flirting and stuff. I think It was more for me to be cautious when calling her, but she broke up with him like 2 weeks after i got the number so...

5.) Value yourself as a man [link] . You are not chasing women; you want to be chased. When you approach a woman your goal is not to get a number. Your goal is to demonstrate value, to make an impression. When you impress a girl she will become a groupie; I know this from experience.
About 1,2: I totally believe in it.
About 4: I don't sweat. but since my game is not great, if for any reason she tells
me , she has a BF (either imaginary or real) I'd rather to move on. Since there singles out there and I have easier time to game them.

3.I have learned some good stuff to tell. I have created a good opener which helped me a lot in terms of DHV and suits my look and personality.Many Hbs told me that's best pick line they have heard and made them laugh.
My communication with hbs are ok and I can lead the convo for 1 hour if she is interested in me.But since the environment is bar and it's noisy, sometimes they don't understand what I am saying( I have accent.) and same as me.
Also dude, if I knew all small details of english and I could have used the right words in right time, I must have fuked at least 100 hbs by now.

The thing that makes me frustrated is that I think I am losing time and I can see that many hbs are genuinely interested in me but since I can't make a great impression I've lost all of them so far.

BTW, I don't have cocky/strong personality when it comes to talk to hbs.I think the reason is that I speak the language which is not my mother langage and since they have advantage over me in terms of speaking I feel week unconsciously inside.Although this feeling is getting much better but still there is.So,many times they don't see me as a serious partner. This is what I think. Maybe I am wrong.

I have a good body and gesture(almost athletic body).I should probably learn some stuff to demonstrate strong personality or at least fake it that I am cocky/funny.


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come on CaptainJackHarkness and easylove!! We are here to help out each other! Now hug each other and act like adults :P

To the OP, 1500 girls and only closed 2? that's 0.13% success rate.. Try out new openers, new techniques, and most importantly change your self to best you can be..
About your current game --> Well, you can polish a honda but it will never be a Lamborghini.. It will be hard to change, and be careful I'm not telling to change who you are.. I'm saying improve your self and try out new things until you start getting higher rates of success! Good luck

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Success Occurs when opportunity meets preparation

1.) Always have a plan; it gives you power what will happen.

2.) If you want what other people don't have you; you must be willing to do what other people won't do.

3.) A good conversation is all about the emotion it evokes in the girl and that comes from how you surgically place your words and how you deliver them. I don't worry about negging or supplicating or any of that. All I go by is how the girl feels; I read her emotions. I read how her words sound when they come out of her mouth. If she feels good around me I am doing good if she feels bad then its going bad. My objective is always to get the girl in really pleasant state then i do this consistently then she falls for me. This is simple as pie. Some guys encourage being aloof and unavailable; I am always available. I feel like the more i talk to a girl and its pleasant everytime....its like getting her hooked on a drug( I am human crack in the flesh). The more she talks to me the more she is going to want to talk to me.

4.) Don't sweat the boyfriend commit. This dime gave me her number once and told me she had a boyfriend when she gave it to me. When she did it it kinda threw me off because we were texting and flirting and stuff. I think It was more for me to be cautious when calling her, but she broke up with him like 2 weeks after i got the number so...

5.) Value yourself as a man [link] . You are not chasing women; you want to be chased. When you approach a woman your goal is not to get a number. Your goal is to demonstrate value, to make an impression. When you impress a girl she will become a groupie; I know this from experience.
About 1,2: I totally believe in it.
About 4: I don't sweat. but since my game is not great, if for any reason she tells
me , she has a BF (either imaginary or real) I'd rather to move on. Since there singles out there and I have easier time to game them.

3.I have learned some good stuff to tell. I have created a good opener which helped me a lot in terms of DHV and suits my look and personality.Many Hbs told me that's best pick line they have heard and made them laugh.
My communication with hbs are ok and I can lead the convo for 1 hour if she is interested in me.But since the environment is bar and it's noisy, sometimes they don't understand what I am saying( I have accent.) and same as me.
Also dude, if I knew all small details of english and I could have used the right words in right time, I must have fuked at least 100 hbs by now.

The thing that makes me frustrated is that I think I am losing time and I can see that many hbs are genuinely interested in me but since I can't make a great impression I've lost all of them so far.

BTW, I don't have cocky/strong personality when it comes to talk to hbs.I think the reason is that I speak the language which is not my mother langage and since they have advantage over me in terms of speaking I feel week unconsciously inside.Although this feeling getting much better but still there is.So,many times they don't see me as a serious partner. This what I think. Maybe I am wrong.

I a have good body and gesture.(almost athletic body).I should probably learn some stuff to demonstrate strong personality or at least fake it that I am cocky/funny.
I am trying to understand what is the source of your difficulty. You sound like you have a strategy, but you say your language is holding you back....maybe you want to plan out your conversation even more. For me a conversation works best when its like "a play"...its scripted out and its like you are the director. I mean i would say plan out your words even more and rehearse how you are going to say your words and even your body gestures. Look up method acting, I do some of this myself. After 1500 approaches you should know how girls react. You should know what they dont like. You have lots of experiences to reflect upon.

You sound like your confidence is not good and this is what learning the hard way does...it hurts your confidence, your expectation that you will succeed. You get rejected so much that you start to expect rejection. ANd when you expect rejection your approaches get lazy, you don't take risks because you can't "feel your opportunities," you give up more easily, and you behave skittishly. All these things are hard to see from a subjective perspective however.

If every thing is a matter of language then you just need to practice how you say things at home more and work on ways to speak girl to make sure she listens to you and even ways to cut off her exit so she won't leave while your talking.

Why do you think you get rejected usually?


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Language isnt as important as you think it is. My mate does really well and he hardly speaks english. Girls love it.

How would you rate yourself on looks? I know people say they are not important but really they are. Sorry but its true.


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The game is no fun if your not winning, its all heartbreak and stress and worry.


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@kimpia:
I tried to change but it seems hard ( don't want to say impossible.) I changed some lines and new storie it works much better. but still no success.

@pablohernandez: I think where you live and who you are gaming is important. I live in a big city in US. Although, ppl here are accepting foreigner much better.However, the hbs I am looking for are good enough and my rivals are strong. I should say my problem is not just my language but it has an important rule in this result.


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Dont know then. Maybe you need to re-think the way you handle a conversation.

Your not ugly, you are obviously approaching enough. It must be something you say.


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I really hope this isn't a trend of guys announcing themselves like this...

When you've talked to 1500 chicks and only banged 2, that is a percentage of 2/1500, or 1/750, which is like 0.03 or something ridiculously small. Which raises the question, did you ever actually take the time to change up what you were doing? From what you said, to how direct/aggressive you were, to working out or changing up your hairstyle?

You don't have to change who you are on a fundamental level. You don't have to change your religion, your culture (probably not, anyways), your political beliefs, or your personal goals, though you may need new ones. But fuck, if you need to approach 750 chicks before you have a statistical chance of bangin one, why not spend that approach time improving yourself so you can bring that number down to 1/100, or better?

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@IwantEasyLove:
Yes,I've accepted to get rejected easily and I don't care too much if I rejected in the beginning. But If the interaction goes well and deep, I'll try my best to make it working.
But you are right. It's not really fun. You know why? because I am too horny lol and I have this weird feeling : if the hb likes me and she is hot I get stress out.So I'll try to get her number and go.Since I don't want to blow it off.It didn't happen too much for me but I felt it several times.


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aha.. Anxiety problem and stressing out about the outcome.. Working for you? yeah, 1 out of 750 times.. This problem normally goes away with experience, but in your case it's something different.. Go into details.. tell us exactly how you approach and how you play your game.. Don't be afraid no one will judge you if you are being honest about this

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almost 2 thousand approaches. 2 closes. 30 numbers. wow. he could be lying out of his as though. its the internet after all

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I'm sorry. I wasn't upset. I just wahhhh ...wahhhhh wahhh wahh ;( mommyyy...
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Wow... impressive!!! keep up the work!!!!

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I really hope this isn't a trend of guys announcing themselves like this...

When you've talked to 1500 chicks and only banged 2, that is a percentage of 2/1500, or 1/750, which is like 0.03 or something ridiculously small. Which raises the question, did you ever actually take the time to change up what you were doing? From what you said, to how direct/aggressive you were, to working out or changing up your hairstyle?

You don't have to change who you are on a fundamental level. You don't have to change your religion, your culture (probably not, anyways), your political beliefs, or your personal goals, though you may need new ones. But fuck, if you need to approach 750 chicks before you have a statistical chance of bangin one, why not spend that approach time improving yourself so you can bring that number down to 1/100, or better?
DJ_Z I didn't know how end being like this.(approaching this amount.)
Generally I can say I don't have any problem in terms of personality etc. You know why?
Because My friends who I know and came here to US having the same problem. But They don't go and talk to girls and sarging.They can't get any result at all.Probably don't spend time on it.
Among them I am the best. even some of my friends who are native. All of them are nerd unfortunately and that' why I have to sarge alone.
At least I got numbers from hot hbs but they flaked on me. From their side of view I am doing great. From your side, It doesn't look good at all. I am viewing from your side since I want to get result.
I got more number in the last 2 months compared to the whole year and from hot hbs.
I realized I need to work on myself if I want to get the result I want.
2 problems here: 1-I don't have anybody to correct me. 2-I don't have enough time to spend on it. but I need to since it's affected other part of time. I think I am almost there but it seems not.


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