AFC's take note of this.

This statement is really redundant - as his words prove this.

Kid, you were given advice from someone who's been there/done that - and YOU gave excuses and threw rocks at him...

You see, son, in the PUA world, we don't insult one another - we listen to their opinions, take what we like, shitcan the rest and give props where props are due. We GET IT. Sharks that feed as a group eat far more than sharks swimming solo.

Crawl before you walk. If you don't have the fucking balls to approach cold in a gym environment, that's on you, not "unanimous" bullshit you throw out to shut someone up who took the time to answer you.

I bet he'd prefer you just say "thanks for your opinion" and shut the fuck up.

Friends?

RR



edit: Just saw your apology. Cool of you. I retract this, and offer an apology of my own.

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Pretty much 99% true, if you follow this one rule your going to do well be default. If I could talk to the teenage me, I would tell him this as a rule to live by.

You have a lot of self limiting beliefs you seem rather sure of btw junior, which is the #1 reason smart people suck at pickup normally, they can justify failure and inaction all day . It looks like your well on your way of doing absolutely nothing productive in relation to this girl and having great reasons for that shitty feeling of failure. You know whats funny? When I try and fail I dont feel bad at all, funny that.

That's exactly how I feel. I find myself looking at some pretty hideous girls I have no interest in when I'm at the gym. If one of them was to approach me, my gym experience would be "tainted". If I saw that girl the next day when working out I would avoid her and the surrounding area.
I may have insulted CaptainJack but only because he assaulted me first and continuously stated how experienced he was and rejected anything I had to say.
I also agree and I'd be the first to admit I'm still an AFC. Otherwise I wouldn't be on this forum asking for advice I'd be giving it. You did profile me pretty well though. However I wouldn't say I'm on my way of doing absolutely nothing because I won't approach a girl who looked at me in the gym. "Rome wasn't built in a day"

Also I apologize if I'm coming off offensive, it's just how I write.

I also appreciate all the responses.

She is looking at you because she wants to talk to you, now go get her number please.

Visualize: See yourself doing it then do it. See yourself doing it then do it. See yourself doing it then do it.

See yourself getting the number. See yourself taking her out. See yourself succeeding.

Assaulted by stating I didn't get some universally recognized memo you hold as an omen of truth? Take a good hard look at yourself. What Retired Rodeo said was spot on. I don't know what 'apology' you issued, but I stick by what I originally said - you are scared. Nothing else.

1. Insulted*

2. Did take a good hard look at myself, now what?

3. Yes I am scared, otherwise would I be asking for advice. If I wasn't scared, would I be asking?

4. Why do you continuously come back to post, I read your first post and appreciated your advice but didn't accept it.

Also don't feel a need to respond, I get the fact that you think I should just approach and that I'm scared and no PUA (which doesn't make sense because approaching at the gym isn't anything your AFC can do).

Thanks for your first response again.

Alright but I'd advise you to be a little more open-minded. Some of us might give A-hole responses but we're trying to give you a kick in the ass, not insult you. CaptainJack had good intentions.

Anyway, seems like your mood is low. You have to get into "state" before you try PU stuff by socializing with everyone, listening to good music, etc.

Like SexAddict911 said, don't do direct approaches unless the girl is eye-banging you, in which case I just do C&F. Yes some girls don't want to chat and I HAVE been blown out or gotten the odd stare trying to hit up a girl in the gym before. But fact is it's HER who is weird and lame for not wanting to talk to a friendly person, have that mindset.

Here's a tip: Most gyms have a few middle-aged male members who walk in the gym and get a dozen hello's on their way to their equipment, from employees to young guys to hot women. Watch how they operate, they do several key things:

*They open as soon as they make eye contact with someone
*They have great posture, positive body language, and speak loud and clear
*They don't do anything fancy, just "Hey my name's ____" (handshake) and stack
*They have alot of interesting exercise/sports factoids they say to hook people
*They have a sense of humor
*They always smile

Social proof can really help if you're doing gym pick up, because girls see you are social and a well-liked person, so if everyone else likes you except her, there's something wrong with her. Plus if you get blown out you can forget about it and talk to your acquaintances.

I really think you were already given great advice by the previous posters. But I also see a stalemate.

What you need to do is look at the situation from a different angle. Reframe it.

For instance, when I see a female gym mate checking me out. I leave it at that and continue with my sets. I really stay away from the guys who don't work out but socialize more inside the gym.

However, and that's a big HOWEVER, when the HB goes near me, and it's usually in the stationary bike, I talk to her. I saw the situation as her approaching me instead of me approaching her. Why? The gym has so many equipments and she could have chosen the other machines instead of getting near me.

Now, did I f-close this HB? Hell, no. I don't think she's fuckable. But every time she comes near me, I talk to her to practice my pick up skills.

Watch out for the cues. If your HB comes near you, it's on. You didn't approach her. She approached you. By then, it's your job as a man to open her. She already did half the work. So do yours.

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Yeah I feel the same way. I'm not going to go out of my way to approach her at the gym because quite frankly I am scared and I haven't really ever seen it myself. Usually when I do see a guy talking to a girl at the gym they already know each other. Hell, just the other day I was talking to an HB9 because I knew her but I would have never approached her if I didn't already know her.

But back to the other HB I don't know. If she does approach me, I will say something whether I'm on a bike, by the fountain or in the stretching area.

I'm trying to recall the last time I saw her there and I think she might have came over once or even twice. I'll have to be on higher alert next time.

If you knew she would like it, would you talk to her at the gym?

Good.

Remember, in the game of courtship, women are the hunters, not men. Several prominent and well cited scientific studies provide evidence to this already. When she comes near you, she's unconsciously thinking if you're worth the hunt.

Bait her but don't be an easy kill. Women are attracted to testosterone first and confidence second. She approached you because of your high testosterone levels along with the other male hormones that make men attractive. Show a little confidence and she'll chase. Don't make it easy for her and show massive interest all at once. You're the prize. She's the hunter. Don't put her on the pedestal. Let her put you in the pedestal.

Let the hunt begin.

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May I never see these words from your fingertips again Mr Hellhound. They are all fuckable. Women are either getting fucked or want to get fucked some are more particular then others but the general consensus is they want cock.

The answer to the equation is simply being the right guy at the right time. The more of the right guy you are, the less you need the right time. With the right observations, its fairly easy to spot out the ones that haven't gotten laid in a while.


One of my favorite quotes:

By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.-- Nikos Kazantzakis

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

Well, my dick is kinda picky. I certainly wouldn't fuck those 82 year old virgins who hand roll Cuban cigars.



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Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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I didn't mean it that way, I mean't the ones you desire.

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