LD, you make a strong point, but this is also true:
Now, you say karma is a human construct. Maybe it is, but I think you misunderstand the concept. If you help a woman cheat on her boyfriend, in how many cases out of ten does her boyfriend find out and get angry? In how many cases out of ten do you end up arguing with the woman? And in how many cases do you hurt someone?

To this final question, I would say all. This makes cheating a dangerous game. Hurting someone makes it likely that you will in turn be hurt, in an unforeseeable way. This is a better understanding of karma.

It doesn't restrict you, it warns you of pain to come. I choose to limit my pleasures in order to also limit my pain.

Yeah, good points of both of you.

Why would anyone satisfy himself while causing pain to somebody else. Well, in all honesty, i would say: pure egoïsm. I know in my case it would be egoïsm. I thrive on those feelings of raw lust and desire. And i do look for value in a woman, but i would prefer somebody who is 'occupied' but intensly sexual over a single woman who has 'good moral' and doesnt cheat. I guess from that point of view, it is pretty ugly.

To slip n slide, i like your understanding of karma better, as you seem to insinuate that people might get the effect of what they have caused, not from a devine power, but just because people might be vengeful. That is true. Many ugly things have happened because of cheating.

But still, it wouldnt stop me. There is no way of figuring out why, and with these good arguments you could say: you are just plain stupid as you refuse to look forward and see the pain you might cause. And you are right, but it wouldnt be my pain, and that is the ugly truth.

cheers. Btw, this is a nice discussion.

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I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

I think the level of tolarance dictates the level of morality a PUA might have. Meaning what ever your willing to deal with on both sides of the party i:e you stealing his girl from him and him stealing your girl from you. I would just like to let that be a natural occurance happen instead of me dedicating energy to that type of mentality or event. I guess in the end you want to seem alpha (which is fine) but you don't want to be considered the true asshole (the guy all women, people find disgusting and hard to be around)

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