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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:29 pm 
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Stop taking what kasabi has to say so personally. Kasabi might have responded aggressively, but i'm pretty sure it was to just drive his point across.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:23 pm 
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Apologizing for everything is lame but not apologizing when you have been bad, that is not good either.

Being strong enough to apologize is a good start on your inner game training.
Just thought I'd rephrase this so people really understand what it's all about.

NEVER apologize for escalating/being sexual. ALWAYS apologize when you do something stupid.

ex: "You're such an asshole seeing girls as sex objects, how DARE you say you want to fuck me hard." Don't apologize for that shit. Just say, "It's just that you make me horny, it's all your fault."

"How DARE you told my ex about us?" Apologize.
"How DARE you compare me to a toothache?" Apologize.

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Well, the secret to never apologizing is to not do stuff that will need apologizing.

Of course you can apologize for sexually escalating, if you do it wrong. If you go too fast or too aggressive, it is something you need to apologize for. It can make her feel terrible and scare her.

Just dont apologize to gain an advantage. Apologize when you have really done something wrong. Same rules as you use for your friends.

And listen to Kasabi, I know it can seem scary to read and admit to what he wrote and that it is more comfortable to ignore it or throw up your shields but believe me, this is the fastest and most effective way to improve.

If you have the mindset that whatever you think is funny is funny you lack a certain skill called calibration. You need to learn that. Get out of your own head and figure her out. If you cannot do that you will not be able to make strong connections since you are gonna spend more time with yourself than with her even if you are physically together.

The entire point of doing PUA at all is to escalate without freaking her out. The key to this is to care about and figure out what she likes or dislikes and change your game accordingly. To just use whatever humor you like and blame her when she doesnt get it is the opposite of pickup, that is pushing her away.

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In regards to comedy:

It can only be judged by the reactions of the audience.

The OP's formula:

Copy/paste or recite tired cliche's for self amusement. (By the way, this behavior isn't too different from mentally challenged kids who repeat redundant crap for self amusement, regardless of the annoyance level of those around him.)

Recovery technique:

Actually, what the OP did is probably a better move than an apology for a girl who lacks self esteem; this is good. But this thread isn't really about apologies or who's right or wrong or pick up. This thread is functionally just an example of a cycle of behavior that can only lead to misery.


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Well, the secret to never apologizing is to not do stuff that will need apologizing.

Of course you can apologize for sexually escalating, if you do it wrong. If you go too fast or too aggressive, it is something you need to apologize for. It can make her feel terrible and scare her.

Just dont apologize to gain an advantage. Apologize when you have really done something wrong. Same rules as you use for your friends.

And listen to Kasabi, I know it can seem scary to read and admit to what he wrote and that it is more comfortable to ignore it or throw up your shields but believe me, this is the fastest and most effective way to improve.

If you have the mindset that whatever you think is funny is funny you lack a certain skill called calibration. You need to learn that. Get out of your own head and figure her out. If you cannot do that you will not be able to make strong connections since you are gonna spend more time with yourself than with her even if you are physically together.

The entire point of doing PUA at all is to escalate without freaking her out. The key to this is to care about and figure out what she likes or dislikes and change your game accordingly. To just use whatever humor you like and blame her when she doesnt get it is the opposite of pickup, that is pushing her away.
Yeah I see what you mean. We have the same ideology when it comes to game, except that you put a much greater emphasis on calibration. The only time I really calibrate my sexual aggressiveness is if I'm going caveman on a girl at her place or something. When she says stop there, I stop, that could be rape. The thing is that if I was aggressive with a girl that has a boyfriend and she told me, "I didn't appreciate that at all, I have a boyfriend." Then I just play it off humble/blame it on her. "Oh ok, it's just that you're pretty..it's all your fault :)" The reason I blame sexual aggressiveness on girls is because it creates a positive challenge as mentioned by 60 years..(bringing him up once again lol). It saves you from coming across as needy/desperate. Whatever happens after that is either continuing to be a sexual threat or "Pleasure knowing you :)". I believe in getting blown out and being sexually intimidating. It allows me to be persistent and display more attractive qualities.

When you mentioned figuring out what she likes and dislikes, I don't really pay much attention to that. I hold the frame instead and stay chill under any circumstance. Because like you said, some girls will get freaked out and use that against you to scare you off/bait you into breaking rapport with them. I'm either "Getting blown or getting blown out".

One time I was being sexually aggressive with this one girl. She didn't like it because I was hitting on all the other girls in the same area. I persisted and let her resist me after which I stopped. I didn't apologize for it or anything, kept playing it off genuine/humble and stayed happy. She even tried making fun of me and being a lot more mean, I still didn't give in. What turned out happening is that she came around later being all enthusiastic around me once again. She kind of misses the sexual threat now :lol: I mean, if you really are a bad boy, you never apologize for sexual aggressiveness.

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I mean, if you really are a bad boy, you never apologize for sexual aggressiveness.
If you really are a pick-up artist, you dont need to be a bad boy.

Just saying.

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