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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:45 pm 
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This is what I did on Friday when I approached a girl and she gave me the boyfriend bullshit: how-do-you-handle-initial-rejection-fie ... 18668.html

It's really all about confidence I think..

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There is no right or wrong answer to every situation. But for the I have a boyfriend situation.

You should be like that's great for you. Did you think I was hitting on you?
Listen to her reply. WAIT FOR IT.
The say because I wasn't. Then walk away.

That would be awesome and make her fill like shit. She will probably follow you and apologize. Where you can then tell her to buy you a drink to make up for it.

Then you find out about her life and her family. Ask her what she does, and all those normal questions. You don't really care, but your being nice to her since you don't want to embarrass her after she totally misjudged you.

Walk her out of the club and oops you happen to give her a kiss. Damn that was nice. Maybe I should get your number. Lets have a friendly lunch date. I'm not hitting on you. I just think you are interesting.
This is one of the stupidest pieces of mental masturbation ever. I GUARANTEE you have never field-tested this in your life. Don't give advice unless you've actually TRIED IT at least 10-20 times and it's WORKED for you consistently.

Guilt-tripping women into going on a date with you by lying to them about your intentions, furthermore, is reflective of one of the shittest mindsets I've ever come across in 4 years of posting on the forum.

Grow up, be a man, and fucking be honest with women about what you want!

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So in a nutshell what you guys are saying is that direct game saves you time but has a higher chance of failure. Indirect game takes more time but has a lower chance of failure and side benefits like being able to make friends with her. I guess in applying this to my college situation, I should go direct if I cold approach some girl I probably won't ever see again, and go indirect on girls in my class/my clubs since I see them regularly.


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So in a nutshell what you guys are saying is that direct game saves you time but has a higher chance of failure. Indirect game takes more time but has a lower chance of failure and side benefits like being able to make friends with her. I guess in applying this to my college situation, I should go direct if I cold approach some girl I probably won't ever see again, and go indirect on girls in my class/my clubs since I see them regularly.
Indirect = protecting your ego, wasting time, DLV if you will (no confidence)

Direct = DHV ( showing confidence), showing honest intention, weeds out time wasters


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This is one of the stupidest pieces of mental masturbation ever. I GUARANTEE you have never field-tested this in your life. Don't give advice unless you've actually TRIED IT at least 10-20 times and it's WORKED for you consistently.

Guilt-tripping women into going on a date with you by lying to them about your intentions, furthermore, is reflective of one of the shittest mindsets I've ever come across in 4 years of posting on the forum.

Grow up, be a man, and fucking be honest with women about what you want!
I can see you have a point. Let me try to understand what you are saying. You are saying: I'm lying to women to try to sleep with them. And I haven't field tested my recommendation. And the reason why is because I have an ego that likes to believe women will follow me and apologize. Therefore I am trying to make woman feel guilty in order to sleep with me, and I have a shitty mindset. So I therefore need to grow up and be a man.

I appreciate your feedback - truly I do. I can vaguely see how you got from making a woman apologize to guilt tripping her into sex. But I don't understand the difference in walking away from her, or talking to her, his intentions will be the same. He needs to back off because he is coming on to strong. I don't want to see him beating his head against a wall, aka: a woman that assumes he only wants sex.

I guess if you only want sex then just go around to a bunch of women until you find it by being direct and approaching. Asking for sex in a respectful way is an art form all in itself. I always look at the bigger picture and think sex doesn't mean acceptance.

Because of my insecurities I was searching for sex, and that is why I got into the game. Since then, I've discovered life is more than sleeping with women. I know it feels good to sleep with them, and it's a skill set. But if we could be content without it, then our lives would be more fulfilling and less troublesome. Plus it's fun to reject a girl, it gives them a little shit like they give us. It's not about whether or not she comes back to him. It's about him leaving her, but not in a painful rejected way. In a way where he is in control. And it's a powerful statement of inner strength.

To be completely honest, I haven't gotten the "I have a boyfriend" line in years. I don't want to field test my recommendation because I would have to regress. I usually know how to calibrated and when to make a move or not. I'm at the point where people introduce me and most of my hook ups come from social groups. My recommendation is not about the results of sex. More so his development of deep inner game to stand up for his integrity.

Going out with the mind set on achieving results in social interactions is flawed. The need to sleep with women in order to feel good is desperate. No matter how good I have gotten at sleeping with women, my life is significantly better with my long term friends and people that care for me both in good and bad times.

While I am not perfect, I have an overall sense of happiness and content with little self suffering. Sometimes I can be frustrated, mainly because of my expectations, and not because of actions others do to me. Most of my happiness comes from achieving my goals that directly relate to myself and my career. Happiness is a state of mind : life is 10% of what happens to us, and 90% of how we deal with it. If we focus our energies on dealing with our internal mental state, the outcome of social interaction will become obsolete. Confidence will creep in without our knowledge. We will be growing and we will have to reflect in order to understand our advancements. We will be investing in solid, long lasting future.

I believe most people here are searching for happiness in one form or another. And Ryan from your post and dedication to this site I can tell you have some powerful opinions. I failed to supply you with the necessary information to understand me correctly. I'm sorry for that.

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How bout "Oh that's cool" and then move on, why damage another persons relationship for a lay. You've saved a shit load of time and now you can move onto another girl without spending ages trying to chat up a girl who isn't interested in you, or if she is, will require damaging a relationship.

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"Awesome, he can make us breakfast in bed"
"That's cool, he can hang around with my girlfriend whilst we're together"
"Gives you something to do when you're not with me"

These were lines from Gambler's book that I thought were pretty funny and congruent with my personality :lol:


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