Bansario what do you think of what I've posted above mad.genius?

Assuming those IOI were something to go by, would that be a viable way of trying to turn things around? As in, get closer to her social circle, try make her friends bring her with them, build attraction/comfort from there and work on that..

Well, all that sounds amazing, but you might want to be a bit careful with how you do it.

You already tried to contact her, and it didn't work, so now you're going to use your friends as a way to get her. If you don't calibrate the whole interaction properly, you may come off as needy. Now, I don't really know how much experience you have in terms of gaming girls (hopefully a lot ) but I've seen many guys trying this method and failing.

It's all about the value she perceives you with. The higher the value, the better your chances. The kind of situation you're describing sounds easier said than done especially since she probably has made an impression of who you are...

If you decide to do it, just make sure you become the "soul" of the group. The coolest guy around. The guy who can make everyone feel good around him. The guy who's not chasing the HB9 around. You may have to be a bit indirect with your approach (taking things a bit slow in terms of showing interest).

Basically, you have to make her chase YOU by being the most desirable guy in the group.

Can it be done? Yes. Is it easy? Sometimes. Can you easily change someone's perception of you? Hmm..that's a different question.

Hope it helps, and no matter what you decide to do, simply be confident, determine, and not pushy.

Good luck bro!

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Great stuff there..

Am lucky enough to have a very good image around her social circle. People that hang around her social circle regard me very highly, and do not hesitate showing it.

Quick example was when I was having lunch with a few friends of mine and a mutual friend of HB7 (HB9's friend, who also we texted back and forth) and mine kept on raising my value in front of the HB7.. So assuming my value within their social circle (even if I don't meet with them as often, yet) remains high and gets even higher, it should be easier to do my thing.

Also, now that I think about it, when we first met I had been the 'soul' of the group, without being concious of it, so I guess there's no harm down on the Value part..

Now I guess it's just about getting around her social circle, without coming off too needy, keeping Value high and see how it goes from there.. I certainly dont think it's worth texting her again before we meet in person a few more times as I think there's a great possibility she just wont respond again (despite showing IOIs and excitement over our FB convo)..

bansario i definately see whats your point here but there is a reason why i am speaking against waiting 3 days. Lets see the big picture
what is going to happen after you text her 3 days and she does not reply?
BOOM! You completely blew yourself out. Hat are you supposed to do then? NEXT HER?
Whatever we do is always creating an image of ourselves.
She ignores your text and you text her after 3 days, what is it going to subcommunicate?
You can wait three days to text.
You didnt forget her and may be kept thinking about her (girls assume it)
you can text anytime (a bad thing. She would feel secure ignoring you as she knows that you will text her after 3 days or 6 days)
so that is really not going to help you. So what i say is send her a text following the format that i gave and if she doesnt reply then dont ever text her again unless she texts you first. If she has any attraction for you and she values you then she would text you first. And if she doesnt, you dont need to work on your phone game, infact you need to work on your initial face to face game and build good amount of attraction and comfort

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Fantastic.

It seems you get the idea.

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Been a little stale lately as I've been very busy.. However last night I was at this house pary, and a friend of the HB9 was there.. asking me if it was my bday :S

So I was like, wtf.. how did you come up with that? and she told me that the HB9 had told her it's my bday =s (which it isnt..)

Thought of taking advantage of this, and re-opening on fb (lower investment).. what do you think?