First, I'll reinforce my argument by suggesting that you read a few one-titis posts on this forum. Sure, the commonalities on the guy's side of things is that he's inexperienced and f'd everything up. However, their descriptions of the girls that have swept them off their feet have all to do with the girls' professional, social, spiritual talents and aspirations. These guys go on and on about how talented the girl is, how "different" she is . . . Isn't this what you'd rather recommend for your sister or daughter? Wouldn't you rather have them work on their talents and uniqueness and shine that to the World and prospective mates? I for one would never pass on a message that amounts to, "All your talents, interests, and accomplishments mean shit. You're just a vagina so use THAT to interest guys." - To me, this is derogatory and misogynist.
Enough about that:
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Hey guys,
I'm in a rather interesting situation. Last night, I went out with this girl. It was our third date, and things started getting a little intense. We were making out, rubbing up on each other, etc.
However, here's the problem. She doesn't want to have sex until we're engaged.
The thing is, however, she's already had sex with her past (three) boyfriends.
What do I do?
dude, sorry we have gone a bit out of your subject, but it kind of help me give you a better answer, this girl sees you as boyfriend material, that is why she is withholding sex, and she is giving you ioi as she sees a future with you, that is the reason why she is withholding sex, you need to play it a bit different, you need to make her feel SECURED, that after you and her have sex you will stick around, this is a line that i use with girls like this, there is a routine i use with girls like this succesfuly i just do not know if it will work with you, basically i explain that part of making my decision about a future with her, involves sex cause i am a very sexual person, and i want to get it out of the way, and most girls withhold sex, the couple get the emotions involve and then 6 months later sex sucks and they just wasted their time... then i start turning her on, and bang bang...
What you are suggesting is the SAME strategy as the one I explained in my initial reply. However, I favor the METHOD as described in my flowchart. Here's why:
1. Few women systematically strategize and plan for a relationship. Meaning, this girl probably wants a fiance but she only gives you the no-sex line as part of her habitual pattern and not because she has some grand plan in mind. (I'll offer 10 to 1 odds that she gave every previous boyfriend the same line)
2. You're attempting to trigger logical senses from an illogical being. I'm attempting to trigger the emotions from an emotional being. You're communicating to the girl the way men want to be communicated with. Wouldn't men love it if a girl just said what they meant, "Hey, I'll have sex with you in two days and our relationship will be just like _______ and from that point on we'll do ____ and ___.?"
3. The two methods seem similar but are Worlds apart in that you're attempting to cut a deal by offering her a future and accepting a sexual act. I'm attempting to influence her emotionally to negate her proposal.
*There are a thousand different ways to convey what you want to say.